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Re: Bluesky CEO Jay Graber is stepping down

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Post by asadotzler »

AuthAuth wrote: post #27
Ekaros wrote: post #19

Wait Bluesky had a CEO? I thought it was some type of organic open source collective.

They constantly say they are a Public benefit corporation but there is no actual difference between that an a corporation. This leads to people assuming some kind of benevolence.

Wrong. B Corp boards are legally protected from lawsuits if they reject the highest bid when they put the company up for sale. In a C Corp, once the board puts the company on the auction block, not taking the highest bid, even from a company that's diametrically opposed to the goals of the C Corp, opens the board up to lawsuits from shareholders pissed about not getting the maximal return. Suggesting this is no difference shows a lack of understanding of the legal regime these types of corporations operate under.

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Post by unselect5917 »

pron wrote: post #307
unselect5917 wrote: post #277

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>Twitter's demise I just checked https://apps.apple.com/us/iphone/charts/6009 and X (formerly twitter) is the #1 news app followed by substack, CrimeRadar Dispatch Audio, and coming in at 4th place is reddit. So if twitter's dead, what does that make reddit, 3 spots behind it? Well, not dead, obviously. Pretending that twitter is gone or dead is just not rational behavior.

While still in business, X is shrinking fast ( https://mashable.com/article/elon-musk-x-user-decline-in-uk-... ) and sliding in the rankings, where it is well behind Reddit and LinkedIn, and even behind Pinterest ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_popular_social_pl... ). I'm not saying it's "fully dead", but it clearly lost the cultural relevance and impact it once had.

That's a two year old article and X is the #1 news app today. How can you possibly construe that as "shrinking fast" if two years later it's in the top spot literally today? It seems like wishful thinking on your part rather than being reasonable based on first principles and the data at hand, from where I'm sitting.

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Post by pcthrowaway »

OhioMan2943 wrote: post #272
yuestion wrote: post #216

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With the new CEO in place, are there any plans to deal with the obnoxious userbase of Bluesky, and perhaps try to expand it out to reach people who don't exhibit such high levels of toxicity?

As one of the first 10k beta users, who was fairly active, then moved back to twitter, I agree with this. The userbase is extremely off putting from the get go- it's not the fault of Graber or anyone else- but they should allow people to turn off the turbo redditor type people with a few settings.

> As one of the first 10k beta users, who was fairly active, then moved back to twitter, I agree with this. The userbase is extremely off putting from the get go

Very surprised to hear this... the few times I've visited Twitter in the last year I've been met with a deluge of racist, homophobic, transphobic, and misogynistic comments. Like there's practically no moderation on there. People saying "Hitler was right the whole time" and shit like that.

I don't use Bluesky much either but I definitely wouldn't have considered it worse than Twitter

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yuestion wrote: post #216
arcalinea wrote: post #71

Jay here: this is a transition I've been working towards for awhile, and I'm looking forward to advancing the vision and ecosystem as CIO (Chief Innovation Officer). Toni has been an advisor to us for years, and I personally recruited him to take over as CEO while I focus on new projects within the company. It's an honor to have him on board to lead us into this next stage of growth.

With the new CEO in place, are there any plans to deal with the obnoxious userbase of Bluesky, and perhaps try to expand it out to reach people who don't exhibit such high levels of toxicity?

And that in comparison to Reddit ot Twitter?! :D

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wolvoleo wrote: post #250
esskay wrote: post #244

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Counterpoint - its a legal requirement in several parts of the world now (and rapidly expanding), how do you think they should handle it whilst you know...still being able to exist?

It was supposed to be decentralised though, meaning there would be no central party to pursue.

It is. The block is on the client level, not the network.

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Post by JoshTriplett »

BeetleB wrote: post #305
JoshTriplett wrote: post #253

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I would love to see that work, but every time I've tried to set that up, it seems to fail. The bridges seem unreliable and non-responsive when trying to set them up or diagnose issues with them.

I use https://fed.brid.gy/ It works. It has poor documentation, though so it took a few attempts to figure it out. For example if you don't have a profile image it won't work.

That's exactly what I've tried to get working, several times. I show up on bsky with zero posts, and I can't follow folks from bsky.

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yuestion wrote: post #224
CactusBlue wrote: post #91

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How do you feel about the recent communication failures from the team to the userbase? As another builder of an open-source social platform, we must all understand that it is paramount for any company to not antagonize its customers, doubly so for a SOCIAL platform. I do understand that Bluesky and ATProto has to deal with a lot of baggage from both the old userbase and the new influx from the X/Twitter exodus, but e…

The most vocal and obnoxious of the Bluesky userbase get antagonized by pretty much anything. Pleasing that lot is a fruitless task. What Bluesky should do now is focus on expanding their userbase away from this particular group of insufferables.

What do you compare this userbase to? Twitter? Facebook? Reddit? HN? All of these places have similar or worse userbase and worse filtering/blocking options than bsky.

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chaosharmonic wrote: post #282
nailer wrote: post #271

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Elon Musk is all of those things personally (see: that heil-handing incident), and it's public knowledge that he made the Twitter engineering team amplify his own posts.[1] [1] https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/02/report-musk-had-...

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Re: Bluesky CEO Jay Graber is stepping down

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Post by animal_spirits »

pcthrowaway wrote: post #313
OhioMan2943 wrote: post #272

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As one of the first 10k beta users, who was fairly active, then moved back to twitter, I agree with this. The userbase is extremely off putting from the get go- it's not the fault of Graber or anyone else- but they should allow people to turn off the turbo redditor type people with a few settings.

> As one of the first 10k beta users, who was fairly active, then moved back to twitter, I agree with this. The userbase is extremely off putting from the get go Very surprised to hear this... the few times I've visited Twitter in the last year I've been met with a deluge of racist, homophobic, transphobic, and misogynistic comments. Like there's practically no moderation on there. People saying "Hitler was right the…

Its not worse than twitter. It's not close in compared to toxicity; though i've personally noticed a high-minded snobbishness toxicity that shuts down discussion on it.

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Post by isodev »

multisport wrote: post #4

Just to say the obvious: the new CEO is a VC partner and former CEO of Automattic. That seems very bad, no matter how "committed" they are to the vision of Bluesky.

They put it quite plainly indeed:

> As Bluesky matures, the company needs a seasoned operator focused on scaling and execution

Translation: enshittification

That’s the other shoe where they will iterate on ways to monetise the party. Ads, paid “verification”, making users pay to use atproto apps (or making developers pay to use the managed storage)… the sky is the limit.

In a way I’m happy Bluesky never took root and outside a few enthusiasts in my bubble it’s practically unknown.

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