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Dario Amodei calls OpenAI’s messaging around military deal ‘straight up lies’

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We know how this story will end for Dario. See Oppenheimer, Turing, Lavoisier, Galileo, Socretes etc. Power does not reside in the hands of people with knowledge or even wealth. And most technical people have not taken a political philosophy course or even a philosphy course. The Ring of Gyges story is 4000 years old.

Oppenheimer? Really? Quoting a review of an Oppenheimer biography: “Oppenheimer was clearly an enormously charming man, but also a manipulative man and one who made enemies he need not have made. The really horrible things Oppenheimer did as a young man – placing a poisoned apple on the desk of his advisor at Cambridge, attempting to strangle his best friend – and yes, he really did those things – Monk passes off as…

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By voting.

Did the nsa's spying on everyone change between democratic and republican governments?

No.

... But the government flooding cities with thousands of masked thugs with a license to do whatever they want... has so far been an entirely Republican thing.

There are more colours to the world than pure black and pure white. There are also a million shades of grey in between, and most of us have the ability to distinguish between them.

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So firearms dealers should be fine with their customers going on mass murder sprees?

Is this a rethoric question?

Is your original question rhetoric? Because it ain't very... smart

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> Did voting for Bernie Sanders in the last two primaries (especially the ones when Trump won for the first time) amount to anything? He didn't win the primaries though. It would have amounted to something if he got enough votes.

1) He did not win primaries, in significant part also because DNC was heavily against him. The level playing field thing. 2) If he won the primaries, there is still no guarantee that that would have amounted to anything. First, he might not have won the elections (mainstream media and the whole ruling elites were heavily against him). And even if he won, he might not have been able to do much against the permanent st…

Everything you're saying here is the exact delusional cynicism that got us here. Stop.

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All lawful use. And then they followed up with “intentionally doing illegal things.” If they happen to accidentally do illegal things, OpenAI is ok with it.

I hate this so much. The nsa’s spying on everyone in 2010 was “legal” and I can only imagine how much worse it is now with AI to follow your digital footprint around everywhere. Too bad we don’t have any more whistleblowers like Snowden

"Too bad we don’t have any more whistleblowers like Snowden"

Probably because most don't want to end up in russia?

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I think Amodei is widely underestimated. The consensus viewpoint on the deal that OpenAI struck with the Pentagon is that Anthropic got played. I disagree. I'm certain that Amodei and his team gamed this out. In doing so, I think there's at least two conclusions they would have drawn: 1. Some other AI company would cut a deal with the Pentagon. There's no world in which all the labs boycott the Pentagon. So who? Choo…

The mistake here is thinking they can take on Power without really sitting in any officual position of Power. Wikileaks and Assange got popular too. What happened to them? The State Dept and CIA do exactly what Assange did. They pick and choose who to target with leaks. They get away with it (mostly even when exposed) because they officially are in power. Assange was not in power. If you take a moral position do it w…

> If you take a moral position do it when you have real power.

If the condition for getting real power is having no morals, this is hard to accomplish.

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To play devils advocate - why should a government supplier and private company (Anthropic) and 1 man there - get to decide what an organization with elected officials can and can’t do? Dario has no idea of threats facing the US and where national security needs to go. Dario has personal views on weapons and surveillance- that’s fine but national defense tactics by their nature is something many people are uncomfortable with.

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To play devils advocate - why should a government supplier and private company (Anthropic) and 1 man there - get to decide what an organization with elected officials can and can’t do? Dario has no idea of threats facing the US and where national security needs to go. Dario has personal views on weapons and surveillance- that’s fine but national defense tactics by their nature is something many people are uncomfortab…

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