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/e/OS is a complete, fully “deGoogled” mobile ecosystem

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Re: /e/OS is a complete, fully “deGoogled” mobile ecosystem

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Post by unethical_ban »

nphardon wrote: post #282

I went *browserless on my device and it has solved my screen compulsion issues with very little downside. It has been the most effective step I've ever taken. I realized I really love msg'ing friends, having access to maps and navigation, banking, just a handful of apps (no google apps), and that all along it was the browser. *ios doesnt let you delete Safari so I set a 10 minute timer on it, and i dont have any adbl…

I have been thinking the exact same thing! That while I "need" a smartphone for secure communications, banking and nav while traveling, it's Instagram and compulsive news/reddit consumption that keeps me instinctively checking my phone. I think I need to do the same thing on gOS.

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Post by littlestymaar »

em-bee wrote: post #218
jdcaron wrote: post #201

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As long as banking works with web browsers, I think the future looks good for this usage, but I could de-bank my phone and still have plenty of useful things to do with it.

the problem in my case is that the authentication for the banks website requires an app, and that app doesn't work. i am locked out of online banking for that bank because of it. (they also have a windows app that i could not yet get to work on linux/wine)

Ugh. I'm locked up with my bank because of my mortgage terms and being one day forced to install a spyware on my phone really scare me.

Re: /e/OS is a complete, fully “deGoogled” mobile ecosystem

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Post by littlestymaar »

cogman10 wrote: post #193
odeckmyn wrote: post #180

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and so what? should I ask for permission to discuss something? it's crazy how omniscient people are aggressive on the internet. Is that your normal behaviour IRL??

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> This is behavior of an astroturfer, that's so what

Engaging in an argument with people accusing them of astroturfing? Absolutely not.

Re: /e/OS is a complete, fully “deGoogled” mobile ecosystem

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Post by abighamb »

abustamam wrote: post #292
abighamb wrote: post #212

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Is it such a burden to write them a letter stating, "Because you have decided to disable my electronic access, I am notifying you that I withdraw my consent to e-delivery. Please provide me statements and directions to mail you a check for payment." Maybe spend 20-30 min to find the specific laws that give you the right to do that and remind them of their timelines to comply. Send a letter like that certified. It get…

This only works if the company cares though.

This a pretty general recipe to make a company care.

A Professional letter letting them know that you know your rights, and that they know your rights (Them getting your letter is your proof of that) is what the beginning of someone losing his bonus for a compliance incident looks like.

Companies don't care about you, or even shareholders, they care about the incentives of leadership.

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Post by kaashif »

littlestymaar wrote: post #307
tremon wrote: post #294

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> Google pulls the plug ? cool, you're stuck on Android 17 And you're stuck on the current hardware generation. Pretty much the only reason why Android sucks less than other mobile OSes is that hardware vendors have a pressing reason to make it work. The further the Google Android kernel diverges from its last-open version, the harder it will become to backport drivers -- and that's assuming that hardware vendors eve…

> The further the Google Android kernel diverges from its last-open version Can it even diverge though? The kernel code is GPL so I don't think Google can close it down even if they wanted.

Unless they invent kernel as a service or undertake a remarkably ambitious AI license laundering project, I think you're right.

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Post by lpcvoid »

nosioptar wrote: post #277
wolvoleo wrote: post #35

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There is when you have a phone that isn't a pixel.

Graphene doesnt even support all usable pixels. My pixel 3a isn't supported, but is by eos, lineage, and mobian (if you don't need volte).

Your phone is too old, it doesn't get any security updates anymore since years now. Idk why you even still use it?

Re: /e/OS is a complete, fully “deGoogled” mobile ecosystem

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Post by nphardon »

unethical_ban wrote: post #311
nphardon wrote: post #282

I went *browserless on my device and it has solved my screen compulsion issues with very little downside. It has been the most effective step I've ever taken. I realized I really love msg'ing friends, having access to maps and navigation, banking, just a handful of apps (no google apps), and that all along it was the browser. *ios doesnt let you delete Safari so I set a 10 minute timer on it, and i dont have any adbl…

I have been thinking the exact same thing! That while I "need" a smartphone for secure communications, banking and nav while traveling, it's Instagram and compulsive news/reddit consumption that keeps me instinctively checking my phone. I think I need to do the same thing on gOS.

Yes! Also shopping is an insidious thing. Now it's no longer a shopping tool. For me a common flow would be like, 1) think about some thing 2) instantly I'm scroll shopping somewhere 3) remember I'm too frugal to buy things 4) 10 minutes lost to the void. It's been really nice for me to break that particular cycle.

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Post by edoceo »

barbazoo wrote: post #303
tremon wrote: post #294

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Google pulls the plug ? cool, you're stuck on Android 17 And you're stuck on the current hardware generation. Pretty much the only reason why Android sucks less than other mobile OSes is that hardware vendors have a pressing reason to make it work. The further the Google Android kernel diverges from its last-open version, the harder it will become to backport drivers -- and that's assuming that hardware vendors eve…

> And you're stuck on the current hardware generation. As someone using a Pixel 3a as their main device that gave me a chuckle.

I had Pixel3 until Nov 2025 - when it suffered its final drop. I was kinda grumpy I couldn't convert to Graphine cause the hardware was not supported.

Re: /e/OS is a complete, fully “deGoogled” mobile ecosystem

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Post by zwarag »

spudlyo wrote: post #167
odeckmyn wrote: post #141

I wanted to add a perspective from actual daily use, because a lot of this thread sounds theoretical. I’ve been using a Murena/Fairphone running /e/OS as my primary phone for a while now, and honestly the experience has been much smoother than I expected. My banking apps work, GPS/navigation works reliably, messaging and everyday apps behave normally — I’m not constantly fighting the device or giving things up. After…

This account has three comments on HN, all of them essentially the same type of /e/OS advocacy pablum. "I wanted to add a perspective from an LLM sockpuppet, because I know you're all not deeply cynical and mistrustful yet."

I also recently switched from an iPhone to a Fairphone with e/OS and can say that I absolutely share that experience.
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