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Post by autoexec »

thimabi wrote: post #251
david_shaw wrote: post #195

I'd prefer to see board (or executive) level signatories over lay employees -- the people who can enforce enterprise policy rather than just voice their opinions -- but this is encouraging to see nonetheless. I can't help but notice that Grok/X is not part of this initiative, though. I realize that frontier models are really coming from Anthropic, OpenAI, and Google, but it feels like someone is going to give in to t…

> I'd prefer to see board (or executive) level signatories over lay employees -- the people who can enforce enterprise policy rather than just voice their opinions Although it would be nice to have some high-level signees there, I think we shouldn’t minimize the role of lay employees in this matter. Without having someone knowledgeable enough to build and operate them, AI models are worthless to the C-suite.

> Without having someone knowledgeable enough to build and operate them, AI models are worthless to the C-suite.

The obvious solution is to use AI to build and operate them. If AI is as intelligent as the hype claims it shouldn't be an issue. It's not as if the goal wasn't to get rid of workers anyway. Why not start now?

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Post by timr »

ted_dunning wrote: post #270
timr wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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No. It is much more than this. If I sell red widgets that I make by hand to the government, I won't be allowed to use Anthropic to help me write my web-site.

You’re just restating the implication of the rule, but the rule is as I stated. That’s the point of having such a rule.

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Post by busko »

hakrgrl wrote: post #292

1.5 hours after this was posted, Sam Altman stated openai will work with the DoW. So much for this waste of a domain name. https://x.com/sama/status/2027578652477821175 "Tonight, we reached an agreement with the Department of War to deploy our models in their classified network. "

For those who don't use X:

https://xcancel.com/sama/status/2027578652477821175

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Post by elAhmo »

davidw wrote: post #16

"We hope our leaders will..." I realize things are moving quickly, and the stakes are high here, but thinking about what happens if the hopes are not met might be a next step.

So much for the hope with leaders such as Sam and Dario

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hakrgrl wrote: post #292

1.5 hours after this was posted, Sam Altman stated openai will work with the DoW. So much for this waste of a domain name. https://x.com/sama/status/2027578652477821175 "Tonight, we reached an agreement with the Department of War to deploy our models in their classified network. "

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Post by txrx0000 »

tbrownaw wrote: post #294
txrx0000 wrote: post #272

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Scaling has hit a wall and will not get us to AGI. Open-source models are only a couple of months behind closed models, and the same level of capability will require smaller and smaller models in the future. This is where open research can help: make the models smaller ASAP. I think it's likely that we'll be able to get something human-level to run on a single 16GB GPU before the end of the decade.

> human-level to run on a single 16GB GPU before the end of the decade. That's apparently about 6k books' worth of data.

For the weights and temporary state, yes. It doesn't sound like a lot until you remember that your DNA is about 600 books worth of data by the same metric.

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Post by teaearlgraycold »

stinkbeetle wrote: post #307
hakrgrl wrote: post #292

1.5 hours after this was posted, Sam Altman stated openai will work with the DoW. So much for this waste of a domain name. https://x.com/sama/status/2027578652477821175 "Tonight, we reached an agreement with the Department of War to deploy our models in their classified network. "

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All they did was say they didn’t want their company to do something. They never said they had the power to ensure that.

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Post by IG_Semmelweiss »

danny_codes wrote: post #212
rabbitlord wrote: post #42

I am not a fan of Anthropic guys, but this time I stand with it. We all should.

It is a rough precedent that the government can force private citizens to build weapons for them.

The government has always had monopoly over violence.

Not only in the US, but everywhere else there is a government.

Arthropic is trying to make that a corporate prerogative, which is why its causing such a stir.

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Post by hshdhdhj4444 »

stinkbeetle wrote: post #307
hakrgrl wrote: post #292

1.5 hours after this was posted, Sam Altman stated openai will work with the DoW. So much for this waste of a domain name. https://x.com/sama/status/2027578652477821175 "Tonight, we reached an agreement with the Department of War to deploy our models in their classified network. "

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You’re right.

The people who actually know stuff about the world are reality TV stars, Fox News hosts, and podcasters just asking questions.

Those are the people with actual knowledge.

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