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A new California law says all operating systems need to have age verification

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Re: A new California law says all operating systems need to have age verification

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> There's an obvious theme with lawmakers in California You can remove the in California

Policies enacted elsewhere usually don't have the Brussels Effect.

What about in Brussels?

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Reaction 1: how would this even work with embedded systems that have no UI to input this data? Reaction 2: it's open source, make the lawmakers do submit the changes. Reaction 3: how would this ever be enforced? Would they outlaw downloading distributions, or even older versions of distributions? When there's no exchange of money, a law like this is seems like it would be suppression of free speech. Reaction 4: Someo…

It would just be unenforced for all platforms except windows, apple and android.

I doubt the california legislature knows what a Linux even is.

Re: A new California law says all operating systems need to have age verification

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I see Massachusetts as sort of the non-insane liberal counterpoint to California. Things work here and nobody seems to be passing the "oops my unintended side effects and clueless regulations messed things up horribly." Or, if they do, it is at something like 1/10th the level. We didn't start warning label spam everywhere. We don't have weird propositions that are causing run-away housing prices. There aren't bar cod…

I like MA, but you realize the challenges are vastly different, right? The sheer size, economic volume and cultural diversity of CA presents a pretty unique set of issues.

I mean, sure, but all those things I named don't seem to be scale induced? They seem to all stem from clueless regulation, which is as simple as not not signing silly laws? I'm missing where scale plays into the items I mentioned.

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> (g) This title does not impose liability on an operating system provider, a covered application store, or a developer that arises from the use of a device or application by a person who is not the user to whom a signal pertains. So, this makes desktop Linux illegal, but all the software-as-a-service like Microsoft Azure and OpenAI get off scott-free? Fantastic.

Literally no, thats not what that sentence says.

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The incentives are all wrong. You can serve up to 6 two-year terms in the Assembly or up to 3 four-year terms in the Senate, but regardless of which combination you do, nobody in the California legislature can serve more than 12 years combined across both Houses of the legislature. So we don’t have professional legislatures with long-term electability incentives or leadership goals, we have a resumé-building exercise…

> professional legislatures That should not be a profession. Decisions should be made by people who are the most informed about the subject matter. By definition you cannot have someone who is the most informed about everything.

I agree. Limits are a feature not a bug. If they want a job for life, they should compete for civil service jobs.

Re: A new California law says all operating systems need to have age verification

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What about: - servers living in datacenters - realtime operating systems in embedded devices - the Intel Management Engine - the OS on every smart chip in credit cards and debit cards - wireless cameras, roombas, smart TVs, smart fridges - cars. Those automotive systems have OSes too right? - all those IoT devices, including California’s traffic cameras What age signals should those devices send out? Is there an excl…

The law is targetting consumer operating systems, not linux servers/iot devices.

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Parents who are fed up with social media and tech companies taking no social responsibility. These companies have fewer ethics than a minimum-wage liquor store clerk when it comes to caring about the age of their users.

Parents are lazy and don't want to do what parents should do and cry to the state that they should do it.

Yeah, those parents whose kids died from tainted milk products sure were lazy. How dare they cry that the state should do something?

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There's an obvious theme with lawmakers in California—they pass laws to regulate things they have zero clue about, add them to their achievement page, cheer for themselves, and declare, "There! I've made the world a better place." There are just too many examples. For instance: - Microstamping requirements for guns—printing a unique barcode on every bullet casing (Glock gen3 cannot be retired, thus, the auto-mode swi…

How long until we have to scan our assholes to use the coffee machine?

Do you have a term sheet?

Re: A new California law says all operating systems need to have age verification

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California is a confusing state, age verification for operating systems while almost releasing this monster on the public: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2026-02-26/serial-c...

It's like it's a big place with more than one thing happening at the same time.
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