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Re: The path to ubiquitous AI (17k tokens/sec)

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OK investors, time to pull out of OpenAI and move all your money to ChatJimmy.

A related argument I raised a few days back on HN: What's the moat with with these giant data-centers that are being built with 100's of billions of dollars on nvidia chips? If such chips can be built so easily, and offer this insane level of performance at 10x efficiency, then one thing is 100% sure: more such startups are coming... and with that, an entire new ecosystem.

If I am not mistaken this chip was build specifically for the llama 8b model. Nvidia chips are general purpose.

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If it's incredibly fast at a 2022 state of the art level of accuracy, then surely it's only a matter of time until it's incredibly fast at a 2026 level of accuracy.

Why do you assume this? I can produce total jibberish even faster, doesn’t mean I produce Einstein level thought if I slow down

Better models already exist, this is just proving you can dramatically increase inference speeds / reduce inference costs.

It isn't about model capability - it's about inference hardware. Same smarts, faster.

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What's happening in the comment section? How come so many cannot understand that his is running Llama 3.1 8B? Why are people judging its accuracy? It's almost a 2 years old 8B param model, why are people expecting to see Opus level response!? The focus here should be on the custom hardware they are producing and its performance, that is whats impressive. Imagine putting GLM-5 on this, that'd be insane. This reminds m…

I personally don't buy it, cerebras is way more advanced than this, comparing this tok/s to cerebras is disingenious.

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Holy cow their chatapp demo!!! I for first time thought i mistakenly pasted the answer. It was literally in a blink of an eye.!! https://chatjimmy.ai/

Fast, but stupid. Me: "How many r's in strawberry?" Jimmy: There are 2 r's in "strawberry". Generated in 0.001s • 17,825 tok/s The question is not about how fast it is. The real question(s) are: 1. How is this worth it over diffusion LLMs (No mention of diffusion LLMs at all in this thread) (This also assumes that diffusion LLMs will get faster) 2. Will Talaas also work with reasoning models, especially those that ar…

The blog answers all those questions. It says they're working on fabbing a reasoning model this summer. It also says how long they think they need to fab new models, and that the chips support LoRAs and tweaking context window size.

I don't get these posts about ChatJimmy's intelligence. It's a heavily quantized Llama 3, using a custom quantization scheme because that was state of the art when they started. They claim they can update quickly (so I wonder why they didn't wait a few more months tbh and fab a newer model). Llama 3 wasn't very smart but so what, a lot of LLM use cases don't need smart, they need fast and cheap.

Also apparently they can run DeepSeek R1 also, and they have benchmarks for that. New models only require a couple of new masks so they're flexible.

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So they create a new chip for every model they want to support, is that right? Looking at that from 2026, when new large models are coming out every week, that seems troubling, but that's also a surface take. As many people here know better than I that a lot of the new models the big guys release are just incremental changes with little optimization going into how they're used, maybe there's plenty of room for a mode…

One of these things, however old, coupled with robust tool calling is a chip that could remain useful for decades. Baking in incremental updates of world knowledge isn't all that useful. It's kinda horrifying if you think about it, this chip among other things contains knowledge of Donald Trump encoded in silicon. I think this is a way cooler legacy for Melania than the movie haha.

Re: The path to ubiquitous AI (17k tokens/sec)

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Holy cow their chatapp demo!!! I for first time thought i mistakenly pasted the answer. It was literally in a blink of an eye.!! https://chatjimmy.ai/

Is super fast but also super inaccurate, I would say not even gpt-3 levels.

That's because it's llama3 8b.
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