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Re: Ring owners are returning their cameras

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Yeah - I think it still a bit of a deterrent ... today, not everyone has a camera, and if I were a thief and one house had cameras while the place next door did not, guess which one I'm gonna rob? But I wonder how much of that will wear off once everybody has one.

if I were a thief and one house had cameras while the place next door did not, guess which one I'm gonna rob? But we're talking about doorbell cameras here, not giant boxes in the sky with flashing strobe lights on them. A thief doesn't know if there's a doorbell camera on a particular home until they're already on the porch and recorded.

> A thief doesn't know if there's a doorbell camera on a particular home until they're already on the porch and recorded.

When a thief wants to steal something, they usually stop trying to steal that thing once they become aware they are being monitored. Even if they only realized once they reached the porch.

It's not a guarantee, but it's something. And it provides a trail to follow if something is stolen (or worse).

Re: Ring owners are returning their cameras

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It’s not. Just think of anyone 60 and over, or anyone not in the US.

That would not be the order of magnitude proposed above.

While the comment is obviously hyperbolic, Facebook is still massively more popular worldwide than Reddit.

Re: Ring owners are returning their cameras

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post #99

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All over Europe is generalisation. At least in France, Germany, Switzerland it is too much pain and paperwork to get any camera installed. If you are worried about chinese then seriously you cannot live.

You are technically correct but also very wrong. Yes, it is a lot of pain to get the paperwork done and you have a high chance of being rejected without a good reason. I know dozens of people who run cheap, chinese IP cams recording public spaces directly to dubious cloud services here in Switzerland. You just don't ask. Work related: We sell solutions including CCTV and video-intercom and we have only recently start…

Once you do illegal then that is a different issue.

Even if your company does such stuff... the number of cameras per street is far fewer then one sees in the UK or USA.

Re: Ring owners are returning their cameras

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>>It’s against the law to post cctv onto things like Facebook in the U.K. I live in the UK and first time I'm hearing about this - it's definitely illegal to record your neighbours or members of the public without permission, but AFAIK if you are recording videos of your own driveway you can post those anywhere you like since there is no privacy issue there. Have you got any more info about this? Edit: let me clarify…

It's not illegal to record members of the public without permission in the UK. The test is mostly about whether someone has a reasonable expectation of privacy, but there are all sorts of other considerations: https://sprintlaw.co.uk/articles/can-you-film-people-in-publ...

Posting it on Facebook is the key. It’s normal behaviour in the curtain twitching communities yet is against data protection laws.
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