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Resizing windows on macOS Tahoe – the saga continues

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Re: Resizing windows on macOS Tahoe – the saga continues

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Post by hosteur »

anschwa wrote: post #136
ivanjermakov wrote: post #31

Since the first taste of Linux WMs, I believe the best and only good way of handling window move and resize is super+lmb/rmb respectively. No more pixel-perfect header/corner sniping! https://www.reddit.com/r/Fedora/comments/qv0vmz/missing_supe...

On macOS, you can enable window dragging by holding down the Control+Command keys with this command: defaults write -g NSWindowShouldDragOnGesture -bool true I use this with "three finger drag", and resizing at the window border hasn't been much of an issue for me.

I tried this on most recent MacOS 26 - it does not work here. Might it be because I have Rectangle installed?

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Post by philipallstar »

sigmoid10 wrote: post #239
Nition wrote: post #215

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On Linux if you learn shortcuts for close/minimise/maximise as well, you can even remove window borders and title bars entirely. It's free screen real estate.

The gnome window title bars are obnoxiously thick and useless by default tho. I've found that Unity or even just Windows like styling in Gnome is a lot more respectful to your screen real estate.

Yes, Gnome looks very odd because of that.

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Post by pjmlp »

xvxvx wrote: post #2

I’m a Windows guy, but was given a MacBook for my current job. Fair enough. But I laugh at how horrendous such a simple thing as resizing windows is. Want Slack to take up the right third of a screen then fill the rest with browser? In Windows, it takes 2 seconds. Not on Mac. I have to resize the window myself? There’s no auto-snap? I’m sure someone will buzz in with some hidden way to do it. ‘Hold cmd-shft-9 then sa…

Which is one the reasons I keep being a Windows/UNIX/Linux person, and only use Apple hardware when it gets assigned to me on specific project delivery.

The stuff with Objective-C and Swift is cool, but not enough to justify fully migrating into Apple land.

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Post by ronjouch »

edoloughlin wrote: post #309
olivierestsage wrote: post #297

It really has gotten to the point where Linux offers the best option for a sane desktop experience. Watching Windows and macOS implode while KDE and Gnome slowly get better and better has really been something. Not quite at the point I'd recommend them for grandma and grandpa, but not that far off, either.

I set up Elementary OS for my 79 yr old mother. No issues.

Similar experience here: I setup Debian stable for my 76 yo mother, and for a 79 yo friend. Works like a charm, and the 2 years release schedule is perfect for people who don’t care about bleeding edge and would rather have stability.

Unattended security upgrades keep it secure, and in my experience a bit of initial “locking things down and simplifying” is valuable, but after this it’s smooth sailing compared to other older folks I help with Windows systems where MS is constantly throwing at them insane bugs, complete UX changes, ads, or Copilot everywhere.

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Post by skydhash »

iainmerrick wrote: post #263
marliechiller wrote: post #261

I have never vibed with macOS's seemingly default mode of floating windows layered over one another like scattered paper on a desk (mimicking a desktop I suppose). Instead ive been using https://github.com/nikitabobko/AeroSpace for the past couple of years and just flicking around via hotkeys. Not perfect but much less friction for my use cases

As a long-time Mac user, I'm comfortable with this UI style, but I do recognise that it's weirdly inefficient. It's very strange that this is the UI that won out in the 80s (to the extent that Windows became a massive hit in the 90s, anyway). A tiling UI would have been much easier to implement! But the original Mac had overlapping windows with pixel-perfect drop shadows. It's a bit nuts when you think about it.

I actually like it, but only when you have virtual desktops. But the MacOS implementation, Spaces, is not great. It clashes with their window management model (you switch between applications, then you can switch between windows). There's no way to restrict the switcher to applications that have windows in the current space.

Floating works great when you can filter the current set of windows using virtual desktops. And when the switcher follow suits. My issue with tiling is that it works great on laptop, but on bigger screens, it sends things to the far side when splitting.

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Post by Terretta »

impish9208 wrote: post #295

I’ve so far resisted using HN for tech support, but I’ll jump on the macOS hate bandwagon. My MBP M1 Max with 32 GB RAM has become near-unusable with Tahoe. Trying to switch users? Frozen. Click on something? Beachballs. There’s visible stutter and hangs in the lock screen animations. I hate it so much.

This doesn't sound like a tech support question. Sounds like stepping up to the mic at an emotional support group: "Am I the only one?"

Well no, this group is your people and you're speaking to the choir.

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Post by sjogress »

olivierestsage wrote: post #297

It really has gotten to the point where Linux offers the best option for a sane desktop experience. Watching Windows and macOS implode while KDE and Gnome slowly get better and better has really been something. Not quite at the point I'd recommend them for grandma and grandpa, but not that far off, either.

Personally replaced Windows 10 with Linux Mint on my very computer illiterate mother in law's laptop a few months back. Haven't heard any complaints so far.

Linux is ready for prime time for anyone not bound to Windows/MacOS software.

Personally, I'm still on MacOS for work, but all my personal devices run some form of Linux. It's been liberating to say the least.

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Post by pjmlp »

ed_mercer wrote: post #114
keyle wrote: post #85

What the hell is going on at Apple? Where are the engineers allocated to? Who's driving the bus? Cause it sure ain't Siri either.

Hardware first, software second

It is more like,

Hardware first, software for iDevices second, macOS when time is available.

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Post by mohragk »

olivierestsage wrote: post #297

It really has gotten to the point where Linux offers the best option for a sane desktop experience. Watching Windows and macOS implode while KDE and Gnome slowly get better and better has really been something. Not quite at the point I'd recommend them for grandma and grandpa, but not that far off, either.

I disagree.

I've actually bought a Mac Mini which I use for media consumption and run it besides my Linux (Cachy OS) gaming PC. I have a jellyfin server, but the media client for linux is totally broken.

And, when you use an nvidia card, you really have to do a deep dive on which settings and which render client you want to run. I now have a stable solution that runs KDE Plasma via Wayland, that allows for games to run smoothly. It took me a while to figure that out.

The Linux community also, quite frankly, sucks. When you need to figure something out, you really need to make it a study and only if you know the correct jargon, you are deemed worthy of help. Othrwise you're bombarded with rtfm comments.

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Post by skydhash »

frou_dh wrote: post #287
zapzupnz wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Using a trackpad gesture is just as quick, easier, more spatially natural, and only uses one hand. My left hand is not always on my keyboard. I'm not always typing. I'm not modelling 100% of my computer usage after "how to get RSI the fastest"; sometimes, I allow myself to lean back in my chair and just scroll the web, documents, photos etc. from time to time.

> sometimes, I allow myself to lean back in my chair and just scroll WHAT??! This cannot be allowed!! /s It's clear from reading programmer geek thoughts on peripherals over the years that autistic types love the "Use keyboard 100% of the time!" dogma because it is black-and-white thinking. The idea of someone knowing how to do things in a multitude of ways and changing it up based on mood is displeasing.

>> sometimes, I allow myself to lean back in my chair and just scroll

> WHAT??! This cannot be allowed!! /s

We just lean back with the keyboard and scroll with the Space key. Also using cwm, I move my windows with Super+{h,j,k,l} and resize them with Super+Shift+{h,j,k,l}.

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