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Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by codazoda »

paxys wrote: post #111

For one reason or another everyone seems to be sleeping on Gemini. I have been exclusively using Gemini 3 Flash to code these days and it stands up right alongside Opus and others while having a much smaller, faster and cheaper footprint. Combine it with Antigravity and you're basically using a cheat code.

I've used Gemini CLI a fair amount as well—it's included with our subscription at work. I like it okay, but it tends to produce "lies" a bit too often. It tends to produce language that reads as over confident that it's found a problem or solution. This causes me extra work to verify or causes me extra time because I believed it. In my experience Claude Code does this quite a bit less.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by JoshMandel »

bastawhiz wrote: post #189
paxys wrote: post #111

For one reason or another everyone seems to be sleeping on Gemini. I have been exclusively using Gemini 3 Flash to code these days and it stands up right alongside Opus and others while having a much smaller, faster and cheaper footprint. Combine it with Antigravity and you're basically using a cheat code.

I've never, ever had a good experience with Gemini (3 Pro). It's been embarrassingly bad every time I've tried it, and I've tried it lots of times. It overcomplicates almost everything, hallucinates with impressive frequency, and needs to be repeatedly nudged to get the task fully completed. I have no reason to continue attempting to use it.

Same. Sometimes even repeated nudges don't help. The underlying 3.0 Pro model is great to talk and ideate with, but its inability to deliver within the Gemini CLI harness is ... almost comical.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by austinthetaco »

SoftTalker wrote: post #105
austinthetaco wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe the "look at all the lines of code" argument for LLMs is not a way to showcase intelligence, but more-so a way to showcase time saved. Under the guise that the output is the/a correct solution, it's a way to say "look at all the code I would have had to write, it saved so much time".

The line of code that saves the most time is the one you don't write.

It's all contextual. Sometimes, particularly when it comes to modern frontends, you have inescapable boilerplate and lines of code to write. Thats where it saves time. Another example is scaffolding out unit tests for series of services. There are many such cases where it just objectively saves time.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by m-schuetz »

cosmic_cheese wrote: post #120
m-schuetz wrote: post #79

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I still don't understand how Microsoft lets standby remain broken. I can never leave the PC in my bedroom ij standby because it will randomly wake up and blast the coolers.

Probably because the quality of PC BIOS/firmware is generally abysmal and getting vendors to follow spec is like herding cats.

Sleep used to work perfectly fine up until, I don't know, 10 years ago. I doubt hardware/firmware/BIOS got worse since then, this is 100% a Microsoft problem.

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Post by anonymars »

estimator7292 wrote: post #309
anonymars wrote: post #280

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many will never know the joy of trying to search for it back in the days when punctuation was ignored (C# says hello too) Related: https://www.cnet.com/tech/tech-industry/windows-servers-iden...

Try going on LinkedIn and searching for C# and .net jobs. Completely impossible. The search is bad to begin with, but it explicitly ignores anything that isn't a-9.

Ha, I stand corrected. Maybe Microsoft could reach out to the owners of LinkedIn to convince them to improve it. Oh, wait...

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by gganley »

superfrank wrote: post #310

I feel like I must be missing something, but I just cannot understand the hype around Claude Code. Don't get me wrong, I'm fully bought in on using AI for development and am super happy to use Copilot or Cursor, but as an experienced developer just chatting with the terminal feels so wrong. I've tried it so many times to switch and I can't get into it. Can anyone else share what their workflow with CC looks like? Eve…

I'll take a crack at it. I liked using Cursor and it was my first introduction but my main editor is Emacs and I like Emacs, it has a bunch of configuration that has built up like barnacles on the bottom of a ship so it was kind of hard using VS Code. I use a project package (projectile) that allows me to quickly move between different projects (git repos, TRAMP sessions, anything really) and I can open a CC terminal there that I can have pop in and out as I need it. Really it's pretty similar to how I used Cursor.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by tomashubelbauer »

torginus wrote: post #261
smithkl42 wrote: post #207

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I'm one of those really odd beasts that feels some sort of loyalty to Microsoft, so I started out on Copilot and was very reluctant to try Claude Code. But as soon as I did, I figured out what the hype was about. It's just able to work over larger code bases and over longer time horizons than Copilot. The last time I tried Copilot, just to compare, I noticed that it would make some number of tool calls (not even invo…

I don't really like how Claude Code kind of obscures the actual code from you - I guess that's why people keep putting out articles about how certain programmers have absolutely no idea whats going on inside the code. It's truly more capable but still not capable enough that Im comfortable blindly trusting the output.

This is not a problem when you assume the role of an architect and a reviewer and leave the entirety of the coding to Claude Code. You'll pretty much live in the Git Changes view of your favorite IDE leaving feedback for Claude Code and staging what it managed to get right so far. I guess there is a leap of faith to make because if you don't go all the way and you try to code together with Claude Code, it will mess with your stuff and undo a lot of it and it's just frustrating and not optimal. But if you remove yourself from the loop completely, then indeed you'll have no idea what's going on. There still needs to be a human in the loop, and in the right part of it, otherwise you're just vibe coding garbage.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by jonathanstrange »

paxys wrote: post #111

For one reason or another everyone seems to be sleeping on Gemini. I have been exclusively using Gemini 3 Flash to code these days and it stands up right alongside Opus and others while having a much smaller, faster and cheaper footprint. Combine it with Antigravity and you're basically using a cheat code.

I'm also using Gemini and it's the only option that consistently works for me so far. I'm using it in chat mode with copy&paste and it's pleasant to work with.

Both Claude and ChatGPT were unbearable, not primarily because of lack of technical abilities but because of their conversational tone. Obviously, it's pointless to take things personally with LLMs but they were so passive-aggressive and sometimes maliciously compliant that they started to get to me even though I was conscious of it and know very well how LLMs work. If they had been new hires, I had fired both of them within 2 weeks. In contrast, Gemini Pro just "talks" normally, task-oriented and brief. It also doesn't reply with files that contain changes in completely unrelated places (including changing comments somewhere), which is the worst such a tool could possibly do.

Edit: Reading some other comments here I have to add that the 1., 2. ,3. numbering of comments can be annoying. It's helpful for answers but should be an option/parameterization.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by derjames »

Zardoz84 wrote: post #39
skandinaff wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eliminate C/C++ in favor of what? Perhaps the plan is to use AI to write plain assembler? Why stop there, maybe let's do prompt in - machine-code out?

If remember correctly, Rust.

why stopping at rust? Let's have a windows version written in python another in crystal and another in java. At least the generated code will be readable and maintainable!!!/s

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by strongpigeon »

A friend of mine over there told me their VP put a mandate that everyone should install and use Claude Code and write a weekly report on their usage (what they did, what worked, etc.). They also track token usage and have a leaderboard of who uses the most token.

It reminds me of this [0] Dilbert comic, but heh.

[0]: https://x.com/idera_software/status/573165928264810496

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