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Notepad++ hijacked by state-sponsored actors

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Re: Notepad++ hijacked by state-sponsored actors

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> This was the exact same technique that was used in 2021 by Audacity's update mechanism, which also redirected traffic to servers hosted in other Aeza Group ASNs and planted a dropper for later campaigns.

I can't find anything about this, can you link a source?

Re: Notepad++ hijacked by state-sponsored actors

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Vindicated once again for turning off any update checks the moment I install any new piece of software. Even if this sort of (obviously rare) attack is not a concern, it baffles me how few otherwise-intelligent people fail to see the way these updaters provide the network (which itself is always listening, see Room 641A and friends) with a fingerprint of your specific computer and a way to track its physical location…

It is baffling to me, as well. You know how you get a remote-code-execution vulnerability? You give a bunch of software permission to fetch code remotely and execute it.

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Re: Notepad++ hijacked by state-sponsored actors

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I partially agree, but as a non-US user of the English speaking internet, the issue is with specifically US politics and social issues being everywhere . It drowns out all attempts at discourse for anything else, and Americans, including people here, seem uniquely incapable of nuance in their thinking when it comes to politics. So, while I fully agree with your stance that banning political discourse is support for t…

I am an American and I make a very conscious effort to appreciate social and political nuances. And I go out of my way to point out nuances to others who, in my opinion, oversimplify their statements. It could be argued that the expression of stereotyping Americans as lacking nuance, itself lacks nuance. I believe really most people are similar in that we have our biases, differences in context and experiences. We ca…

What really do Americans know about Ukraine or Taiwan? E.g. can even 1% of US population show Ukraine on the world map (without using Google Maps)? Could they do it before 2022? Before 2014? Do they know anything about Ukraine or Taiwan history? How many Americans know a single foreign language?

If tomorrow there would be a war or protests in, say, Burundi. Will Americans stay with Burundi or against it? Or with the country the media will tell them is "good" because their interests align with US interests?

I think answers to all these questions are obvious.

Re: Notepad++ hijacked by state-sponsored actors

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Anecdotally, my company has a device driver posted on Windows Update. I inherited the project and was digging through Microsoft’s hardware dashboard trying to find information on the stability of the driver. I ended up finding that our driver was crashing rather frequently. Looking closer, the name of the driver shown was curious as it contained the name of our driver as defined in the inf file, and appended at the e…

You're sure that you have a complete log of all the drivers that were ever uploaded?

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> With these changes and reinforcements, I believe the situation has been fully resolved. Fingers crossed. I get that this is a difficult situation for a small developer, but ending with this line did not fill me with confidence that the problem is actually resolved and make me trust their software on my system.

Would you feel better if they had ended the blog post with corporate style assurances that Notepad++ is 100% secure?

Re: Notepad++ hijacked by state-sponsored actors

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If the attackers did limit themselves to a small number of Asian machines they gave up an absolute goldmine. I would venture to say a lot of technical people use notepad++ at work in jobs that would be very lucrative for an attacker to exploit. I know I definitely had an 'oh shit' moment when I read this and thought about where I have notepad++ installed.

If the exploit had been widespread, though, it would have been quickly discovered.

quickly as in months or years

Re: Notepad++ hijacked by state-sponsored actors

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Based on arrest of protesters in UK, US, and recent laws passed in Australia; it is fair to say that Notepad++’s freedom to protest would depend on who and what they are protesting.

I would have been interested in debating the content of your reply if your account had not been created 1 hour ago. So what about protesting the Russian invasion of Ukraine seems objectionable to you? > it is fair to say that Notepad++’s freedom to protest would depend on who and what they are protesting. What? In the US, UK, and Australia, the right to protest (i.e. of speech) does not depend on what’s being protest…

Just try to protest decades long ethnical cleansing and war of occupation occurring in Palestine in the USA of the UK, for example, like some students and people did in good conscience. You're a tad idealizing the limits of freedom of speech in the western countries.

Re: Notepad++ hijacked by state-sponsored actors

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For a while, I've been thinking that open source package portals will at some point take over making of binaries that get released. Dev teams will run their own CI with whatever automated test pipelines they think is appropriate. For a tests-pass situation and will pass the git hash to the portal system for release, which just runs compile and making the binary. Well, not all CI runs would result in a release, of course. Then the package portal's own software kicks in to calculate an independent since-last-release report that's attached alongside the maintainer release notes.

All such portals upgrade their hash/sig noting of binaries, and keep those in a history retaining merkle tree of sorts. Of nothing, else a git repo. Something like this https://github.com/hboutemy/mcmm-yaml/blob/master/aws/sdk/ko... but with SHA256s, and maybe not the entire world on one repo.

Re: Notepad++ hijacked by state-sponsored actors

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~120 countries fully endorse One China Policy. ~60 acknowledge. ~10 recognize ROC.

https://interactives.lowyinstitute.org/features/one-china-co...

Yes, comports with my numbers.

>A majority of countries (119 or 62 per cent of UN member states) have endorsed Beijing’s one-China principle, which entails that Taiwan is an inalienable part of the People’s Republic of China.

I was being generous bucketing 20 mixed signallers with 40 status quoist. 120 agree TW inalienable part of China, as in TW can never be independent from one China construct (PRC's position). 20 agree it's part of China but not necessarily inalienable, i.e. TW/ROC should have pathway to independence but until they formalize, still part of China. AKA 75% is in recognize tier.

Re: Notepad++ hijacked by state-sponsored actors

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So, let me get this straight. If I've been lazy, postponed updates and I'm still on 8.5.8 (Oct 2023) - it turns out I'm actually...safer? Anyway, I hope the author can be a bit more specific about what actually has happened to those unlucky enough to have received these malicious updates. And perhaps a tool to e.g. do a checksum of all Notepad++ files, and compare them to the ones of a verified clean install of the u…

> And perhaps a tool to e.g. do a checksum of all Notepad++ files, and compare them to the ones of a verified clean install of the user's installed version, would be a start?

Did I understand the attack wrongly? The software could have a 100% correct checksum, because the attack happened in a remote machine that deals with call home events from Notepad++, I guess one of those "Telemetry" add-ons. The attackers did a MITM to Notepad++ traffic.

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