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Gas Town's agent patterns, design bottlenecks, and vibecoding at scale

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Re: Gas Town's agent patterns, design bottlenecks, and vibecoding at scale

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I thought it was harmless(ish) fun, but David Gerard put out a post stating that Yegge used Gas Town to push out a crypto project that rug pulled his supporters, while he personally walked away with something between $50K to $100K from memory. I suppose that has little to do with the technical merits of the work, but it's such a bad look, and it makes everyone boosting this stuff seem exactly as dysregulated/unwise a…

That was very weird. In the post where he was arguably "shilling," he seems to have signposted pretty well that it was dumb, but he will take the money they offered: > $GAS is not equity and does not give you any ownership interest in Gas Town or my work. This post is for informational purposes only and is not a solicitation or recommendation to buy, sell, or hold any token. Crypto markets are volatile and speculativ…

Maybe I'd care about his opinion if he didn't take the money. I consider this worse than OSS taking VC money. At least those don't have a scam auto-builtin to the structure beyond normal capitalistic parasitism.

Also, 275k lines for a markdown todo app. Anyone defending this is an idiot. I'll just say that. Go ahead, defend it. Go do a code review on `beads`. Don't say it's alright, but gastown is madness. He fucking sucks.

Re: Gas Town's agent patterns, design bottlenecks, and vibecoding at scale

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Perhaps it was his followup post about how people are lining up to throw millions of VC dollars at his bizarre whimsical fever dream that disturbs people? I’m all for arts funding, but…

Isn't the point that he refused them? VCs can be dumb (see the crypto hype, even the recent inflated AI raises) so I wouldn't put too much stock in what they think is valuable.

HAHAHA

Re: Gas Town's agent patterns, design bottlenecks, and vibecoding at scale

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I don't get the widespread hatred of Gas Town. If you read Steve's writeup, it's clear that this is a big fun experiment. It pushes and crosses boundaries, it is a mixture of technology and art, it is provocative. It takes stochastic neural nets and mashes them together in bizarre ways to see if anything coherent comes out the other end. And the reaction is a bunch of Very Serious Engineers who cross their arms and h…

I didn't read this article as hate at all, FWIW. It was a pretty measured review of what it is and what it isn't with some much clearer diagrams of the mental models.

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Re: Gas Town's agent patterns, design bottlenecks, and vibecoding at scale

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I don't get the widespread hatred of Gas Town. If you read Steve's writeup, it's clear that this is a big fun experiment. It pushes and crosses boundaries, it is a mixture of technology and art, it is provocative. It takes stochastic neural nets and mashes them together in bizarre ways to see if anything coherent comes out the other end. And the reaction is a bunch of Very Serious Engineers who cross their arms and h…

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Using mystery vibe coded software in a tightly regulated, consequence-heavy environment, that’s so reassuring! /s Is it _just_ speech-to-text, or god-forbid are you giving it scans and having it write reports for you too?

It’s text to speech with structured reports support. Jesus Christ stop with the moral panic already.

FYI I also assumed that it is doing something more dangerous, mostly because you mentioned being radiologist as relevant.

Is it calling some external API or doing this text to speech locally?

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Has it written anything of quality?

beads is a 275k line todo tracker (probably more now). Yeggae is proud to have never read the source. I'm sure its high quality.

Anyone using beads should switch to something else that isn't insane. If you like beads, https://github.com/hmans/beans works the same (not my project), just that its serdes is markdown files with front matter, in a dot folder. Like every sane solution. No daemons, no sync branches. I cannot guarantee the project at all, but at least its better than beads. Or make your own; this is one example of one such project.

Re: Gas Town's agent patterns, design bottlenecks, and vibecoding at scale

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>Yegge is leaning into the true definition of vibecoding with this project: “It is 100% vibecoded. I’ve never seen the code, and I never care to.” I don't get it. Even with a very good understanding of what type of work I am doing and a prebuilt knowledge of the code, even for very well specced problem. Claude code etc. just plain fail or use sloppy code. How do these industry figures claim they see no part of a 225K…

There is an incentive for dishonesty about what AI can and cannot do. People from OpenAI was saying that GPT2 had achieved AGI. There is a very clear incentive for that statement to be made by people who are not using AI for anything productive. Even as increasingly bombastic claims are made, it is obvious that the best AI cannot one-shot everything if you are an actual user. And the worst ones: was using Gemini yest…

> I don't understand why anyone would want to work on a codebase they didn't understand either. What happens when something goes wrong?

It's your coworker's problem. The one who actually understands the big picture and how the system fits into it. They'll deal with it.

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I don't get the widespread hatred of Gas Town. If you read Steve's writeup, it's clear that this is a big fun experiment. It pushes and crosses boundaries, it is a mixture of technology and art, it is provocative. It takes stochastic neural nets and mashes them together in bizarre ways to see if anything coherent comes out the other end. And the reaction is a bunch of Very Serious Engineers who cross their arms and h…

This is just not true. Yegge is serious and thinks Gas Town is the next big thing.

For his income, yes.

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>while Yegge made lots of his own ornate, zoopmorphic [sic] diagrams of Gas Town’s architecture and workflows, they are unhelpful. Primarily because they were made entirely by Gemini’s Nano Banana. And while Nano Banana is state-of-the-art at making diagrams, generative AI systems are still really shit at making illustrative diagrams. They are very hard to decipher, filled with cluttered details, have arrows pointing…

Yeah I couldn’t figure out if they were just intended as illustrations and gave up trying to read them after a while. Which is unfortunate as it would have been really helpful to have actually legible architecture diagrams, given the prose was so difficult for me to untangle due to the manic “fun” irreverent style (and it’s fine to write with a distinctive voice to make it more interesting, but still … confusing). Pl…

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Re: Gas Town's agent patterns, design bottlenecks, and vibecoding at scale

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I don't get the widespread hatred of Gas Town. If you read Steve's writeup, it's clear that this is a big fun experiment. It pushes and crosses boundaries, it is a mixture of technology and art, it is provocative. It takes stochastic neural nets and mashes them together in bizarre ways to see if anything coherent comes out the other end. And the reaction is a bunch of Very Serious Engineers who cross their arms and h…

It reads like the ramblings of a smart person experiencing a psychotic episode.

First Yegge read?
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