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I'm addicted to being useful

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Re: I'm addicted to being useful

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> I don’t mind the ways in which my job is dysfunctional, because it matches the ways in which I myself am dysfunctional As a fellow traveller, I offer one caution: learn to turn this down in personal relationships as it can be counterproductive. It took decades for my wife to finally get through and explain not every problem she voices is something that needs a solution. Some times people just want to be heard. It b…

Counterpoint - she should have known what she was getting into marrying an engineer. It cones with the territory.

I was a nineteen year old majoring in drinking (and Economics), so it doesn’t really count!

Re: I'm addicted to being useful

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post #24
post #7

> I don’t mind the ways in which my job is dysfunctional, because it matches the ways in which I myself am dysfunctional As a fellow traveller, I offer one caution: learn to turn this down in personal relationships as it can be counterproductive. It took decades for my wife to finally get through and explain not every problem she voices is something that needs a solution. Some times people just want to be heard. It b…

I frame it not as turning a dial down, but as switching channel from practical problem-solver to emotional problem-solver. Often when someone wants to talk about a situation involving difficult feelings, they're actually trying to process those feelings: to understand where the feelings are coming from, to be validated, and to be able to take a broader perspective. You can help by being curious about what they're say…

It's called emotional intelligence, and it's a very much needed adult skill that many lack, including self-awaraness as a pre-requisite.

Re: I'm addicted to being useful

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post #237

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> Corporate environments are almost always toxic places to fulfill your emotional needs Luckily the only emotional need my work fulfills is getting money.

Seems like a torturous way to spend 8 hours a day if you only enjoy it for the money. Do you at least _like_ you job?

It's okay. But I will never truly enjoy creating wealth for someone else.

Re: I'm addicted to being useful

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post #37

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There’s an old adage that is very important to logical people (as software engineers are, for example). “Do you want to be right or do you want to be happy?” My wife wants to throw out our perfectly functional table to get a better looking one. Financially and practically, I am right in fighting this. Is a few hundred bucks worth making someone aesthetically-minded not feel satisfied? No, you have to pick your battle…

Some people have a habit of creating situations that are…. Not so easy to get out of. My favorite one essentially boiled down to ‘die die die, or I’ll kill you’. Which, clearly, I struggled to find a useful compromise on.

Yeah, that is quite the choice :p

I am definitely not saying that all relationships can work out. Sometimes you have to be right and happy. I meant more for trivialities

Re: I'm addicted to being useful

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There’s an old adage that is very important to logical people (as software engineers are, for example). “Do you want to be right or do you want to be happy?” My wife wants to throw out our perfectly functional table to get a better looking one. Financially and practically, I am right in fighting this. Is a few hundred bucks worth making someone aesthetically-minded not feel satisfied? No, you have to pick your battle…

That really depends if you like (or are mostly indifferent to) the new table. If you hate it then it becomes a game of "who of us two is more important to satisfy with a table". Definitely not a position you want to be in. Relationships must be two-way streets, always. I have made quite a lot of concessions for my wife for the current rented flat -- simply because I did not care about 99% of the things she wanted to…

Our relationships sound very similar. We are so fucking lucky! Having 2 people that are striving towards a harmonious relationship is increasingly rare.

Re: I'm addicted to being useful

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There’s an old adage that is very important to logical people (as software engineers are, for example). “Do you want to be right or do you want to be happy?” My wife wants to throw out our perfectly functional table to get a better looking one. Financially and practically, I am right in fighting this. Is a few hundred bucks worth making someone aesthetically-minded not feel satisfied? No, you have to pick your battle…

Why even have furniture, you can eat and sleep on the floor. Financially and practically.

Ah, the old “a truly logical cow cannot pick between two identical hay bales and therefore starves to death”

Re: I'm addicted to being useful

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It’s great to be useful as living for your purpose is the best way to achieve life satisfaction. But it’s important to establish boundaries and avoid developing codependency and not to define yourself through the perception of your acts towards others. Having a skill that helps others gives you a sense of mastery. The fact that you have this skill and apply it in good faith should be enough to establish a good sense…

Yes, equanimity is a great quality to possess. It means that you never get too high or too low. When things are really going your way, you know that things can change for the worse. Yet you can be content. When things are not going your way, you know that things can change for the better. And you can be content. This doesn't mean that you don't try to achieve anything. It means that you can still be content whether y…

No problem! Happy it was helpful. I learned about equanimity last year in a book I read about the science of self actualization, how to reach your unique potential.

https://scottbarrykaufman.com/books/transcend/

cheers

Re: I'm addicted to being useful

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Yeah I see the plot here. From this one: https://www.seangoedecke.com/good-times-are-over/ > In other words, your interests now conflict with your company’s interests. > It’s okay for your interests to conflict with your company’s. You get to decide what you care about, and what you’re willing to fight for. But when you act in ways that don’t further your company’s interests, you risk being seen as ineffective or unr…

Re: the plot, there's also this one which fits in among those two: https://www.seangoedecke.com/shareholder-value/

Re: I'm addicted to being useful

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post #283

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You're finding comforting explanations to allow you to act dismissively towards other people. I understand this is a strategy that is popular these days, but maybe consider how another fellow human will feel when you "don't give them a reason why you stop interacting, you just leave", and judge what they tell you as "toxic waste"; and how you might be the one to make it worse for them (and yourself). If you mentalize…

> You're finding comforting explanations to allow you to act dismissively towards other people. No, none of this is comforting. For some people it is a big step to not drop everything just because someone is waiting for the bus and wants to have a 15 minute phone call in order to de-stress their own day. > If you feel worn out after listening to other people, that's one way to avoid that, at the expense of human conn…

I don't see how something can be "ableism" that can be learned by anyone. You may not want to, which is totally fine, or you may not know how to, which is also fine, but to claim you couldn't do it without even trying is just yet another convenient and comforting display of avoidance.

It's OK not to want to be in connection with others whose behavior you don't agree with, but it's not necessary and from my perspective counter-productive for yourself and society as a whole to turn that into a permission to act in hostile ways against them, especially if you're not providing clear feedback. In fact, unless you provide that in an open way, they will not change their ways around you, so you're losing a lot of chances to influence people around you in situations where you simply cannot decide to avoid them altogether. You're not in control over which humans you interact with, and you're turning interactions into exchanges of aggression unnecessarily.

Re: I'm addicted to being useful

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post #296

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> They're looking for people to share in that anger, sadness, or frustration and confirm that it's a valid response to the situation. Which is what the whole "empathy movement" of recent years seems to emphasize. The problem is that when empathy is unmoored from the objective good, this can become scandalous (not in the sense that it causes outrage, but in the older sense that it encourages evil). Not every response…

This is a bit of a difficult stance to take if, like me, you don't think that there is an objective good or an objective moral status.

If there is no objective good, should I also share your view?
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