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Re: The chess bot on Delta Air Lines will destroy you (2024) [video]

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Post by lostlogin »

CalRobert wrote: post #187
vasco wrote: post #171

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Airlines shouldn't have reclining seats, it's bad design. Blaming people for the bad design is stupid. I never recline and still blame it on the design. Stupid people exist, you should design for that.

Flights from sfo to Frankfurt bolt upright sound unpleasant… Not to mention that when my wife was pregnant she could barely manage her back pain -with- the recline, never mind without. The recline button is there for your use. You are welcome to avail of it yourself.

> Flights from sfo to Frankfurt bolt upright sound unpleasant

Medium haul flights sound like a dream to us slumming down the bottom of the planet.

At least we have Elon giving us decent wifi now. Doha > Auckland at the moment.

Re: The chess bot on Delta Air Lines will destroy you (2024) [video]

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Post by TeMPOraL »

lostlogin wrote: post #302
dewey wrote: post #281

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You are describing exactly that phenomenon. Of course it's your "right" to do that technically, but is it a nuisance to others? Yes. Just like smoking next to others (when allowed), or reclining your seat 100% in economy. Technically it's your right to just that.

People asserting their rights is a significant portion of the reason half the population seems angry.

The old problem of "just because you can, doesn't mean you should".

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Post by kimixa »

mywittyname wrote: post #270
spydr wrote: post #159

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> do you care about who your actions might affect This one surprises me every time I fly. When I have the aisle seat I can be up and out in 10 seconds. It seems to make like everyone else will plop down , place down 3 different liquids on the tray and then take a nap. When I ask to use the bathroom I end up feeling like a nuisance

> When I ask to use the bathroom I end up feeling like a nuisance It's your right to ask to use the bathroom whenever you need. And others have the right to use that little tray for their stuff when they want. (while allowed by the airline, of course)

Yup, it's their right, as it's their right to crank their seat back. Both are available, and expected. I see some take issue with people doing them at all, but I don't really mind much. Might be related to being 180cm or so - about 5"11, when most complaining seem to be larger.

My issue on my original post isn't really them moving the seat, but the lack of notice. It would have taken barely a second to lean over the seat and let me know. But I suspect they didn't even think about how that might affect anyone else.

It would be kinda crazy if someone didn't say they wanted to get out to the aisle and just started trying to climb over you with no warning.

Re: The chess bot on Delta Air Lines will destroy you (2024) [video]

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Post by lostlogin »

dylan604 wrote: post #290
ahtihn wrote: post #263

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I'm 185cm and I couldn't imagine having to endure a long haul flight without reclining. I never get these discussions. It's only ever online that I see complaints. Almost everyone reclines on long flights. It's normal. It's expected. If it makes you uncomfortable that's a you problem, everyone else seems fine with it. If it makes you physically uncomfortable, pay for extra leg room. Don't make your problem the proble…

> I never get these discussions. Nor I. TFA is about a chess bot, yet here we are discussing seat reclining etiquette.

You’ve been here before right?

At least we aren’t discussing ad blockers for the 18th time this week.

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Post by amalcon »

dylan604 wrote: post #286
Delphiki wrote: post #283

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I'm 6'4" with a lot of my height in my legs. Sitting comfortably (not slouching, mind you), my knees already barely rub against the seat in front of me. As soon as that seat is reclined, my knees get crushed and I have to either sit up even straighter or twist to the side, neither of which are comfortable. Or, I have to pay to be in a higher fare class with more space.

Have you tried the exit row instead? Sure, you might have to agree to help others, but if you aren't willing to do that regardless of the row, then that just says a lot about you.

The physical requirements are an issue for a lot of people. E.g. a tall senior citizen, anyone flying with a small child, anyone with a visible disability (temporary or otherwise).

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Post by lostlogin »

CalRobert wrote: post #249
close04 wrote: post #228

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Mainly because they were introduced when the seats were set farther apart. Now companies squeeze more rows and keep the same seats. But also because with any shared resource there's an expectation of decency involved. Some people just betray that expectation. They're the ones with the mentality that "they shouldn't have served alcohol if they didn't want me to get insufferably drunk", "they shouldn't have put the can…

People generally didn’t even offer her a seat on the metro. And letting other people decide whether you should be permitted to use the functionality the airline has given you is dysfunctional people pleasing.

Good for me but not for thee.

Re: The chess bot on Delta Air Lines will destroy you (2024) [video]

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Post by lostlogin »

varjag wrote: post #242
123pie123 wrote: post #208

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in reality there should be a legal minimum leg room that's based on the distance of the flight the recline feature should be baked in to this as well

It's the 21st century. Blowhards of the world united with the miracle of technology are moaning at any attempt of common sense regulation. This will become culture wars material right away.

They would argue that the market would solve the issue.

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Post by nerdawson »

kstrauser wrote: post #295
nerdawson wrote: post #285

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> It’s different when there’s a compelling physical need here. If the person in front of me has a hurt back and can’t bear sitting upright, and I knew about it, I’d put up with it as best I can in the interest of we’ve all got to get along. But in the scheme of things, not that many people are unable to sit up and not crush their neighbors. How would you know whether or not the person in front of you has a compelling…

Fair point! So when I scream in their ear for causing me pain, your contention is that I’m free to do that and I don’t owe them an explanation. I’m sure that logic will make everyone around us smile and nod their heads in approval.

That seems like quite the leap and will more than likely result in you being escorted off the plane when you reach your destination.

It may well be an inconvenience to you if someone chooses to recline their seat but nobody owes you an explanation. Expecting them to justify themselves to you isn’t a reasonable stance. And given that you don’t know what someone is going through, whether they have a hidden disability, whether they’re in chronic pain, I really wouldn’t advise asking, let alone shouting at them.

Re: The chess bot on Delta Air Lines will destroy you (2024) [video]

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Post by lostlogin »

baxtr wrote: post #184
vasco wrote: post #171

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Airlines shouldn't have reclining seats, it's bad design. Blaming people for the bad design is stupid. I never recline and still blame it on the design. Stupid people exist, you should design for that.

It wouldn't surprise me if Ryanair had reclining seats that reclined only if you paid for it.

Shhh. BMW might hear.

Re: The chess bot on Delta Air Lines will destroy you (2024) [video]

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Post by lostlogin »

avh02 wrote: post #206
hackingonempty wrote: post #157

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If you don't fit in the smallest seat then buy a bigger seat. Someone using the space they paid for is not being an asshole.

Tall people don't choose their height, fat people (mostly) choose their weight. Edit: also, if the airline can't deal with a certain percentile of the population under their normal product, they should figure out how to make it happen. It's discrimination to not account for tall people

Could a down voter chime in?
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