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Maybe time to use a genuinely useful tech instead of trying to solve an actual hard problem by handwaving difficult problems?

Seems to me like the "difficult problem" is solved in pretty much every other rich country in the world.

if its not solved in the richest country maybe its not so easy to solve unless you want to hand wave the diffuclt parts and just describe it as "rich people being greedy"

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#312
Gemini helped diagnoze me with eosinophilic esophagitis. I have had problems with swallowing all my life and doctors kept dismissing it as a psychological problem. I think there is a great space with ai medical help.

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This was expected. People are going to be convinced that this AI knows more than any doctor, will self medicate, and will die, harm others, their kids, etc. Great work, can't wait to see what's next.

In my experience GPT is uber-careful with health related advice. Which makes me think it's likely on the user if what you said actually happened...

Please look at the post. This is about a GPT which is designed to give you health advice, with all hallucinations, miscommunication, bad training data, lack of critical thinking (or, any thinking, obviously).

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My uncle had an issue with his balance and slurred speech. Doctors claimed dementia and sent him home. It kept becoming worse and worse. Then one day I entered the symptoms in ChatGPT (or was it Gemini?) and asked it for the top 3 hypotheses. The first one was related to dementia. The second was something else (I forget the long name). I took all 3 to his primary care doc who had kept ignoring the problem, and asked…

General doctors aren't trained for problem solving, they're trained for memorization. The doctors that are good at problem solving aren't general doctors.

It's an incentives issue, not a training issue

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My uncle had an issue with his balance and slurred speech. Doctors claimed dementia and sent him home. It kept becoming worse and worse. Then one day I entered the symptoms in ChatGPT (or was it Gemini?) and asked it for the top 3 hypotheses. The first one was related to dementia. The second was something else (I forget the long name). I took all 3 to his primary care doc who had kept ignoring the problem, and asked…

Thanks for sharing. I struggled with long-term undiagnosed issues for so long. It took me 15 years of trying with doctors until one did a colonoscopy and found an H.Pylori infection in 2018. Prescribed the right kind of antibiotics and changed my life. In hindsight, my symptoms matched many of the infection's. No doctor figured it out. So many doctors never bothered to conduct any tests. Many said it's in my head. So…

15 years of funding someone else’s pensions on healthcare dividends.

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post #277

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General doctors aren't trained for problem solving, they're trained for memorization. The doctors that are good at problem solving aren't general doctors.

You still need 2 deviations above the average college student to get to med school. As a rough proxy for intelligence. The bottom threshold for doctors is certainly higher than lawyers

It doesn't matter how intelligent they are, if they only have 5 minutes to spend on your case.

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My uncle had an issue with his balance and slurred speech. Doctors claimed dementia and sent him home. It kept becoming worse and worse. Then one day I entered the symptoms in ChatGPT (or was it Gemini?) and asked it for the top 3 hypotheses. The first one was related to dementia. The second was something else (I forget the long name). I took all 3 to his primary care doc who had kept ignoring the problem, and asked…

Thanks for sharing. I struggled with long-term undiagnosed issues for so long. It took me 15 years of trying with doctors until one did a colonoscopy and found an H.Pylori infection in 2018. Prescribed the right kind of antibiotics and changed my life. In hindsight, my symptoms matched many of the infection's. No doctor figured it out. So many doctors never bothered to conduct any tests. Many said it's in my head. So…

H. Pylori is like one of the most common infections there is. How did your doctors not look for that?

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Yep same, with the caveat that any actionable advice requires actual research from reliable sources afterwards (or at least making it cite sources). i mean; i kinda get the concerns about misleading people but … are people really that dumb? okay if it’s telling you to drink more water, common sense. If you’re scrubbing up to perform an at home leg amputation because it misidentified a bruise then that’s really on you…

> are people really that dumb? Yes, absolutely. The US has measles back in rotation because people are "self-educating" (aka taking to heart whatever idiocy they read online without a 2nd thought), and you think people self diagnosing with a sycophant sentence generator is anything but a recipe for disaster?

If we build a bridge over this river, sure, people can get across the river, but what about if the bridge fails and people fall into the water! Let's not build the bridge instead.

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Thanks for sharing. I struggled with long-term undiagnosed issues for so long. It took me 15 years of trying with doctors until one did a colonoscopy and found an H.Pylori infection in 2018. Prescribed the right kind of antibiotics and changed my life. In hindsight, my symptoms matched many of the infection's. No doctor figured it out. So many doctors never bothered to conduct any tests. Many said it's in my head. So…

H. Pylori is like one of the most common infections there is. How did your doctors not look for that?

No clue. But H Pylori can cause many different symptoms. Sometimes it has no symptoms and people don't notice.

Anyways, that's why I'm so bullish on LLMs for healthcare.

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