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Re: The Post-American Internet

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Post by rakoo »

kergonath wrote: post #249
ta9000 wrote: post #214

Americans aren’t your enemy. We’re just as upset by these idiots running our government as you are.

I have a lot of sympathy for the American people, and many personal American friends. Still, in a democracy everyone is collectively responsible for the government. "It’s not us, it’s our government" only work for so long.

That's assuming that the population has any power, which in pretty much all countries in the world is not true. "Democracy" isn't just a value to behold, if the population has no power, it has no power and a country can't be called as such out of nowhere. Now, the people might have no actual power, but it's in their hands to get it.

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Post by css_apologist »

Quothling wrote: post #4

I've spent a couple of decades in the Danish public sector of digitalisation and in the private sector for global green energy. 10 years ago people would've laughed if you talked about leaving Microsoft and iOS in enterprise. Now we all have contingency plans for just that, and a lot of organisations are already actually doing it. So I would argue that there is more of a crack, but I'm not sure the post-american inte…

> With one hand they do so much to protect consumer rights for us citizens, but with the other hand they build a survailance state.

You say this with no irony as an american..

Re: The Post-American Internet

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

dspillett wrote: post #302
chkchk wrote: post #232

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That assumes that all Americans support the actions of the current administration. I know of no one that supports these actions.

Unless your government is entirely forced upon you, they're is only so far the populace can distance itself from them. The majority of the bad crap this American administration is doing and has done was predicted, heck a lot of it they effectively promised during & before the election, yet nearly two thirds of the population either directly voted for it or sat on their elbows and let it happen.

> yet nearly two thirds of the population either directly voted for it or sat on their elbows and let it happen.

While true, that still leaves more than 100 million people who did not.

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Post by iammjm »

energy123 wrote: post #215
hshdhdhj4444 wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In a sense the EU is in a bind because it refuses to accept that the U.S. has moved on. If the EU does that they can throw off a lot of shackles that they’ve imposed on their relationship with China, and part of that deal could be China stopping funding Putin’s insanity.

Not sure that's wise. The US put pressure on India to stop purchasing Russian oil, which cost the US diplomatic capital. It was showmanship and self-sabotage of an important relationship, but those aren't the actions of a sworn enemy to the EU. The US also gave how much material support to Ukraine over the last few years? Volatility and unpredictability is not the same thing as an enemy. There's also the self-interes…

US basically didn't do jack shit for Ukraine since Trump took over the 2nd time. Worse than that, US is trying to force Ukraine into some rotten capitulation to Russia, so that US and Russia can do business. As far as if US is Europe's enemy, just take a quick look at the recent US foreign policy doctrine, and decide for yourself.

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Post by Hizonner »

u_sama wrote: post #137
Quothling wrote: post #4

I've spent a couple of decades in the Danish public sector of digitalisation and in the private sector for global green energy. 10 years ago people would've laughed if you talked about leaving Microsoft and iOS in enterprise. Now we all have contingency plans for just that, and a lot of organisations are already actually doing it. So I would argue that there is more of a crack, but I'm not sure the post-american inte…

>There is a saying about how us citizens trust companies but not their government, and how Europeans trust their governments but not their companies. This is a Danish blindspot, Europeans do not trust their governments in large (France is fractured, Southern Europe has endemic corruption, Germany is increasingly authoritarian in order to keep heterodox parties out) and this is in part the source behind the flare up o…

> Germany is increasingly authoritarian in order to keep heterodox parties out

... and those parties would be even more authoritarian if they got in. Which they might in part because of the reaction. It's possible to get fucked from both ends...

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Post by b40d-48b2-979e »

ChoGGi wrote: post #270
b40d-48b2-979e wrote: post #217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your analogy kind of falls on its face considering `C:\` is `/` not `~` which would be `%USERPROFILE%`.

How do I get to d:\apps from c:\

It depends on your shell. I think MINGW bash has `/mnt`? maybe it's just `/c`, `/d`, etc.? but for cmd, it's the command `cd D:\apps && D:` and powershell handles it gracefully with one command for drive changing `cd D:\apps`

Re: The Post-American Internet

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Post by mapt »

twixfel wrote: post #225
leishman wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What’s controversial is that EU rules force censorship.

It's not that controversial, every single country has limits on speech, including the US. So European countries control a little bit more than the US, largely when it comes to racial abuse and other hate speech. So? The American model when combined with social media and the internet appears to have disastrous outcomes, judging by who has been elected there. It clearly worked in the past, but not any more. Americans s…

Not at all.

I would just like the early American project of liberal democracy and Constitutional rights to outlive American capitalism and American militarism, even if it means it survives it in some other country. Because it's looking pretty bleak over here.

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Post by PoignardAzur »

> Think of [...] all those "Effective Altruists," who claimed the moral high ground by claiming to care about 53 trillion imaginary artificial humans who will come into existence in 10,000 years at the expense of extending moral consideration to people alive today.

That's not an accurate summary of what most Effective Altruists preach or do. The stereotypical EA interventions are "direct cash transfer to super-poor communities", "buying mosquito nets to fight malaria" and "lobbying for animal welfare", long-termism is much much more niche.

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