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I switched from VSCode to Zed

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Re: I switched from VSCode to Zed

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Post by eviks »

ashvardanian wrote: post #210

I’m currently using a mix of Zed, Sublime, and VS Code. The biggest missing piece in Zed for my workflow right now is side-by-side diffs. There’s an open discussion about it, though it hasn’t seen much activity recently: https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/discussions/26770 Stronger support for GDB/LLDB and broader C/C++ tooling would also be a big win. It’s pretty wild how bloated most software has become. Huge th…

Have you looked at the size of Zed binary lately? How is it pushing against bloat, especially compared to Sublime?

Re: I switched from VSCode to Zed

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Post by IshKebab »

mwest217 wrote: post #272
IshKebab wrote: post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

VSCode is actually one of the best for large files. Not as good as Sublime Text, but it can happily edit million line files, and you'd be surprised how many other editors can't do that. Zed couldn't until recently (not sure if it can now; I haven't checked recently). Once you get into the GB range there are very very few editors that can edit those files unfortunately.

Vim, neovim, and helix all handle multiple-GB files fine!

Yeah but then you have to use Vim-style editing which I hate.

Re: I switched from VSCode to Zed

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Post by nottorp »

bpasero wrote: post #131

We maintain a single VS Code setting that allows you to opt out of the AI features provided in VS Code: "chat.disableAIFeatures" (see also: https://code.visualstudio.com/updates/v1_104#_hide-and-disab... ). If you can still find AI features appearing after you have configured this setting, then please report an issue at https://github.com/microsoft/vscode and we are happy to take a look. It is possible that from time…

> It is possible that from time to time a new AI related feature slips in that does not respect that setting

You mean marketing forces you to "accidentally" slip it in? Just in case it sticks this time?

Re: I switched from VSCode to Zed

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Post by compounding_it »

nottorp wrote: post #313
bpasero wrote: post #131

We maintain a single VS Code setting that allows you to opt out of the AI features provided in VS Code: "chat.disableAIFeatures" (see also: https://code.visualstudio.com/updates/v1_104#_hide-and-disab... ). If you can still find AI features appearing after you have configured this setting, then please report an issue at https://github.com/microsoft/vscode and we are happy to take a look. It is possible that from time…

> It is possible that from time to time a new AI related feature slips in that does not respect that setting You mean marketing forces you to "accidentally" slip it in? Just in case it sticks this time?

I don't know about marketing but if code reviews are done right I would love to know how something like 'AI feature' just slips in.

Re: I switched from VSCode to Zed

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Post by dminik »

callumprentice wrote: post #217

I tried Zed for a few months but just couldn't get the JavaScript/Python syntax checking and Prettier type reformatting to work reliably. I would poke at it for a few hours, get it working and then mysteriously, a few days later, it'd stop working again. I switched to VSCode now and whilst that piece of it seems to be much more reliable, I think overall I prefer the "feel" of Zed. I've bookmarked the article to see i…

It's kind of funny, but I had the exact opposite experience. I couldn't get VSCode to reliably format Typescript/React code across several projects. Some would work and others would not. Sometimes it would format, but with wrong settings.

Frustrated, I switched to Zed and have not had that issue since.

Re: I switched from VSCode to Zed

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Post by ustad »

bpasero wrote: post #131

We maintain a single VS Code setting that allows you to opt out of the AI features provided in VS Code: "chat.disableAIFeatures" (see also: https://code.visualstudio.com/updates/v1_104#_hide-and-disab... ). If you can still find AI features appearing after you have configured this setting, then please report an issue at https://github.com/microsoft/vscode and we are happy to take a look. It is possible that from time…

VS Code is a flagship product from Microsoft. Relying on “we try our best to push fixes as soon as possible” for a global opt-out setting feels below the engineering standards we’d expect. This should be fail-safe by design, not best-effort.

Re: I switched from VSCode to Zed

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Post by biztos »

debugnik wrote: post #169
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love(d) Sublime and it's still getting updates from time to time, but unfortunately its ecosystem died five ish years ago, its package repository is a lot of "last updated 10 years ago". It's still a viable editor, but without community support it's not going to be good enough long term. That said, ST (and its predecessor, forgot the name) set the standard for "lightweight" (lighter than IDEs) editors - Atom, VS Co…

> and its predecessor, forgot the name TextMate? It's been surprisingly influential for an editor I've never seen anyone use; maybe in the US, where people actually buy Mac, it was different.

I was a big TM user who ended up on ST because I needed more of the community integrations and so on... which are now turning into a weakness of ST.

I'm still on SublimeText because I can't deal with the sluggishness of VS Code, and I'll pay for the latest version, but I am starting to worry about the future of what is still a great editor. Rust coding in particular is a bit of a nightmare.

The sad thing is that both of these were the products of business models I enthusiastically support and want to see more of: the solo dev (TM) and the small business (ST), or maybe it's solo dev pretending to be small business, I can't really tell.

Re: I switched from VSCode to Zed

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Post by oneeyedpigeon »

criemen wrote: post #220
ashvardanian wrote: post #210

I’m currently using a mix of Zed, Sublime, and VS Code. The biggest missing piece in Zed for my workflow right now is side-by-side diffs. There’s an open discussion about it, though it hasn’t seen much activity recently: https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/discussions/26770 Stronger support for GDB/LLDB and broader C/C++ tooling would also be a big win. It’s pretty wild how bloated most software has become. Huge th…

> I’m currently using a mix of Zed, Sublime, and VS Code. Can you elaborate on when you use which editor? I'd have imagined that there's value in learning and using one editor in-depth, instead of switching around based on use-case, so I'd love to learn more about your approach.

Different user, but I prefer to use different editors for:

- project work, i.e. GUI, multiple files, with LSP integration (zed)

- one-off/drive-by edits, i.e. terminal, small, fast, don't care much about features (vim)

- non-code writing, i. e. GUI, different theme (light), good markdown support (coteditor)

I don't like big complex software, so I stay away from IDEs; ideally, I'd like to drop zed for something simpler, without AI integration, but I haven't found anything that auto-formats as well.

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