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All AI Videos Are Harmful (2025)

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Post by tracker1 »

gmllama wrote: post #266
tracker1 wrote: post #115

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It's both... I think it can cut both ways... I was largely on your side, as most of the AI stuff I've seen is just annoying more than anything. Then the "Star Wars: Beggar's Canyon" video completely changed my mind. The voice generation is clear and inflection appropriate... the cuts, sequence, and overall effects are clearly put together in a consistent way. I can only imagine how much work that video was, but is re…

Thanks for name dropping this video, I hadn't heard of it. Maybe I'm just getting old but this felt as empty to me as most other GenAI stuff does. The tech is getting better but I'd still prefer a no-budget fan film that looks worse but has heart (and visual consistency) to something like this. I can meet halfway and say that perhaps this is a modern version of someone being able to play with their action figures and…

This was already the direction for studios though... Improvements to CGI and vault filming have cut costs dramatically relying on tech.

The clip mentioned likely took a few green screen segments, a lot of training data and many tries to get the clips needed for that sohrt story. B it's a lot more work at current state of the tech than just entering a single prompt.

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Post by booleandilemma »

doright wrote: post #102
booleandilemma wrote: post #49

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Except you’re not the one doing the creating. It would be like me hiring an artist to execute my vision and then calling myself artistic. Empowering, maybe, but it’s closer to the illusion of power. You control a genie, but you don’t have the power yourself. And it’s worse than that, because in reality the genie is controlled by some mega corp, and not by you at all, and suddenly you need this genie to do all your th…

> It would be like me hiring an artist to execute my vision and then calling myself artistic. Not disagreeing with you, but you might want to sit down for this... https://www.ft.com/content/d84c8502-d413-4a26-a59c-494af1197... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45416670

Frauds have existed before AI, sure. There are people who get others to write their books for them too.

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Post by booleandilemma »

tracker1 wrote: post #121
booleandilemma wrote: post #49

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Except you’re not the one doing the creating. It would be like me hiring an artist to execute my vision and then calling myself artistic. Empowering, maybe, but it’s closer to the illusion of power. You control a genie, but you don’t have the power yourself. And it’s worse than that, because in reality the genie is controlled by some mega corp, and not by you at all, and suddenly you need this genie to do all your th…

You mean like a movie/tv/music Producer?

At least those people are aware of where they sit and who they depend on, and they're not hiding it. A movie producer doesn't pretend to have created the movie by himself, someone who uses AI to write their blog posts on the other hand...

It's too tempting for people to have AI do all the creative work and then take credit for it, and it gives these people the delusion of thinking they're literally artists, authors, bloggers, etc.

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Post by AniseAbyss »

badsectoracula wrote: post #16

99% of everything is bad, so that unsurprisingly includes AI videos. But i've seen several good videos made using AI, including pretty much everything NeuralViz[0] on YouTube makes, but also some that have been posted in older comments here in HN. Igorrr's ADHD music video[1] was also made using AI and fit the music perfectly. The common aspect with these "good" uses though is that they do not let the AI do 99% of th…

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Post by AniseAbyss »

SubiculumCode wrote: post #65
badsectoracula wrote: post #16

99% of everything is bad, so that unsurprisingly includes AI videos. But i've seen several good videos made using AI, including pretty much everything NeuralViz[0] on YouTube makes, but also some that have been posted in older comments here in HN. Igorrr's ADHD music video[1] was also made using AI and fit the music perfectly. The common aspect with these "good" uses though is that they do not let the AI do 99% of th…

For entertainment, I have few concerns. It will compete or fail to compete for attention. For degrading the value of video evidence, accelerating propaganda and fraud, and for making people just feel unsure of what is likely real or fake, that is what I am concerned with.

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Post by wiredpancake »

geysersam wrote: post #66
throwawayffffas wrote: post #14

> There's no easy solution to this crisis. Put down the phone, close that youtube, tik tok or whatever tab. Don't try to explain to your relatives which video is AI and which is not, explain to them that everything on the internet is bullshit and trolling, AI or not it does not matter it's all bullshit to sell ads. Tell them they are better off watching TV, even Fox news.

> Tell them they are better off watching TV, even Fox news. The good old original brain rot

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Post by wseqyrku »

chrsw wrote: post #15

AI generated videos are being used in more and more ads. To cut costs I’m sure. The result is that ads that were just annoying are now terrible and jarring. When I hear talk about AI risks I mostly hear things like runaway super intelligence doing whatever it wants and leaving humanity in the lurch. But what about more realistic concerns, like accelerating the race to the bottom by cheaply and poorly ripping off othe…

Right there, it's a distraction from the actual problem. They promote safety research as if they are fighting Skynet and it works.

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Post by dubbie99 »

waffletower wrote: post #302
dubbie99 wrote: post #182

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I don’t agree with your music synthesizer analogy. I own a synthesizer, however I don’t possess any musical talent whatsoever. I cannot for the life of me produce anything remotely listenable from the thing. I know how to use it, but cannot make good music. You just need to look at some street performer banging on a plastic bucket and entertaining a circle of people to realise that the ability to make music is orthog…

Would you scream at a child that shows you a beautiful shell they found on the beach -- "you didn't make that!" -- why assume that everyone's ego is entwined with sharing?

No, because the child is behaving as a curator which is a valuable act. I never hear ai “artists” claim to be curators, they always claim to be creatives.

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Post by camillomiller »

Gagarin1917 wrote: post #152
camillomiller wrote: post #149

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Artistically not relevant enough to justify the downsides

There’s no “justifying” anything - the tech is here. Even if you ban it globally, it would actually stop be here and would still be able to cause harm - it would just not be able to be used for good either.

The mirror climbing tech chaps are doing to justify the technology per se is the most baffling I’ve seen years of following in tech. It exists therefore it has to be out there. Imagine if we applied that to industrial chemicals, pharmaceutical products, or literally any other industrial endeavor. It’s particularly pathetic to watch the absolutely non-existent level of self reflection.
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