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Re: Backing up Spotify

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Do you have evidence they are profiting? I'm genuinely curious how these kinds of archives sustain themselves.

They take donations.

Just to nitpick, that doesn't imply profit. They could be breaking even (and probably are working at a loss).

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> DRM free digital music from all of the record labels Is this true? Can you show me where I can get DRM-free releases from Mountain Fever? Better yet, can you add that information here? https://pickipedia.xyz/wiki/DRM-free

Your link doesn’t work. But I assume you are talking about this label? I looked at the first artist and I found the artist’s music on iTunes. Everything that Apple sells on the iTunes Music Store has been DRM free AAC or ALAC (Apple lossless) since 2009. https://mountainfever.com/colin-kathleen-ray/ While ALAC is an Apple proprietary format, it is DRM free and can be converted to FLAC using ffmeg. AAC is not an Apple…

ALAC is open source and royalty free since 2011. https://macosforge.github.io/alac/

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Some quick Googling shows 1 million streams pays approx $2000. You'd need 40,000,000 streams to earn $80,000.

That seems reasonable? Assume an artist (either directly or through a rights holder) makes 1/3 income from streaming, 1/3 from merch and physical albums, and 1/3 from live events. 40m streams per year would be 800k per week. 200k fans worldwide playing 4 times per week on average could get you there. Thats like a decent sized but not enormous youtube channel. 200k fans worldwide would also support the ticket sales an…

You only need 5000 fans to buy your CD/album/w.e at $15 to make 80k

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This leak will also be really useful to bad actors who will resell the music from this list without paying royalties to the artists.

I just started DJing and something I quickly noticed is how garbage Spotify's music sounds compared to FLACs I've purchased. The max bitrate is very low.

Spotify just (last week or 2 weeks ago) introduced lossless compression (FLAC) and it sounds amazing.

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What, precisely, is the point you’re trying to make here?

Expressing frustration at the pervasive tendency of technologists to look at everything, including art which is a reflection of peoples' subjective realities, with an "at-scale" lens, e.g., "let's collect ALL of it, and categorize it, and develop technologies to mash it all together and vomit out derivative averages with no compelling humanist point of view" I hope readers will feel our frustration.

Well, that seems like a pretty reasonable thing to be pissed off about, thanks for taking the time to elaborate.

I think the overlap between the bureaucratic technologies developed by people who, by all accounts, are genuine lovers of the subjectivity and messiness of music qua human artistic production (e.g. the algorithmic music recommendation engines of the '00s and early '10s; public databases like discogs and musicbrainz; perhaps even the expansive libraries and curated collections in piracy networks like what.cd), and the people who mainly seem interested in extracting as much profit as possible from the vast portfolios of artistic output they have access to (e.g. all of Spotify's current business practices, pretty much), should probably prompt some serious introspection among any technologists who see themselves in that first category.

I read an essay a number of years back, which raised the point that, if you're an academic or researcher working on computer vision, no matter how pure your motives or tall your ivory tower, what do you expect that research to be used for, if not surveillance systems run by the most evil people imaginable. And, thus, shouldn't you share some of that moral culpability? I think about that essay a lot these days, especially in relation to topics like this.

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That seems reasonable? Assume an artist (either directly or through a rights holder) makes 1/3 income from streaming, 1/3 from merch and physical albums, and 1/3 from live events. 40m streams per year would be 800k per week. 200k fans worldwide playing 4 times per week on average could get you there. Thats like a decent sized but not enormous youtube channel. 200k fans worldwide would also support the ticket sales an…

You only need 5000 fans to buy your CD/album/w.e at $15 to make 80k

Per year, which is a big lift compared to them pressing play on Spotify

Re: Backing up Spotify

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TIL Anna's Archive is blocked in Germany (by a rather obtrusive MitM, I might add). Get redirected to a "Copyright Clearing House" or something.
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