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Post by guru4consulting »

neilv wrote: post #94
jotux wrote: post #58

>What is the expected compensation for participants? Compensation varies based on experience level and agency placement. Annual salaries are expected to be in the approximate range of $150,000 to $200,000. Benefits include health insurance, retirement plans, paid time off, and eligibility for performance-based awards. >Tech Force will primarily recruit early-career technologists So "early-career" but they're going to…

> Before this administration recruiting was extremely difficult and candidate quality was low. I've heard that it's nearly impossible now and in the last 18 months they've only been able to hire a single person. Federal jobs used to be considered stable, with good benefits, but low pay. Now they're unstable, the current administration is actively working to make benefits worse, and the pay is still really low. Also,…

when I saw 18F, CISA, USDS were targeted by DOGE, everything was clear. They were just cutting all the good muscle and leaving the bad fat :(

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Post by ThinkBeat »

It seems like an effort to hire newly educated people for a two year program, to work on various efforts in the federal government as something close to on the job training.

Once you are done you can pair up with one of the private partners you had contacted with during your program. (If they want you).

This does not appear to be an effort to hire people to the federal government, but to get cheap labour from new grads who hope to work on something cool.

(But yes they will have to hire the framework people)

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Post by ethbr1 »

raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #279
ethbr1 wrote: post #278

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The difference comes when Trump needs help but no longer wields power. His dyed in the wool followers will still support him. The convenience crowd? I wouldn't take that bet. Especially after he's been such a dick to so many folks in his own party. But we'll see.

No one except the Freedom Caucus in the House are true MAGA to their core the rest are just opportunists. I’m not sure who are the true believers in the Senate.

I get the sense that Republican senators have always been more willing to see this administration as a passing tide.

E.g. Thune's propensity for letting Trump's more excessive ideas die on the vine.

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Post by platevoltage »

ethbr1 wrote: post #275
platevoltage wrote: post #238

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Can you name any currently serving?

That's part of it: many felt the winds and simultaneously made the choice to "focus on family" and step back from politics during the 2nd Trump administration. But the wheel turns, and there's going to be a lot of folks in the party with very sharp axes to grind during the lame duck period.

Yeah, and I'm sure the Pelosi wing of the Democratic Party will be first in line to help rehabilitate their image.

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Post by testing22321 »

kulahan wrote: post #183
testing22321 wrote: post #96

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> Benefits include health insurance, retirement plans, paid time off, and eligibility for performance-based awards Paid time off??? Health insurance??? Retirement plans???? OMG this is incredible! What an offer! /s

A gov-backed retirement plan actually is nice. You don’t have to worry about losing your Chrysler pension because they went out of business.

What I meant was that in developed countries these things are the utter minimum, required by law.

I don’t think it’s worth advertising you offer the bare minimum. Nothing to be proud of

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Post by square_usual »

mothballed wrote: post #302
square_usual wrote: post #299

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Yeah, it's marginally above average for DC, but that doesn't mean they're "raking it in". The average (which is a bad metric for income) is dragged up by the wealthy in DC balancing out the poor in DC, not hordes of Federal Workers (most of whom live outside DC in Maryland/Virginia, FWIW) making $120k.

What number do you have for median federal worker income in DC then? The median representing the 'hordes' were making $120+k from what I saw, not just the average.

Okay, cite your source for that. ZipRecruiter says the median federal income is $125k, with other sources saying the average is $130k. I don't see any source saying they're making way more than that.

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Post by mothballed »

square_usual wrote: post #316
mothballed wrote: post #302

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What number do you have for median federal worker income in DC then? The median representing the 'hordes' were making $120+k from what I saw, not just the average.

Okay, cite your source for that. ZipRecruiter says the median federal income is $125k, with other sources saying the average is $130k. I don't see any source saying they're making way more than that.

>> not hordes of Federal Workers (most of whom live outside DC in Maryland/Virginia, FWIW) making $120k.

> ZipRecruiter says the median federal income is $125k

By your own (contradicting) admission it's hordes of federal workers making $120+k.

I cite your own source, which is inline with what I found.

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Post by kulahan »

exceptione wrote: post #205
kulahan wrote: post #187

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Are you under the impression this is somehow different from the last few years?

Are you American? Do you think this is normal? Just curious (non American).

There is a somewhat stubborn idea that a government will always have many inefficiencies baked in, since there’s no real incentive to remove them beyond a generic “that would be nice”.

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Post by baobun »

ActorNightly wrote: post #308
dabockster wrote: post #110

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> Most people who work for the government show up expecting to be told what to do, then do it - very few can independently think for themselves. I see this a lot in the private sector too here in Seattle. It's hurting us badly.

Im all for it. Software job markets are inflated. Id be 100% willing to take a lower salary if that meant a reduction of all salaries across the board. Younger people need to be going into things like EE or MechE instead of CS in hopes of getting a six figure job out of college, living in downtown highrises, while working on something that is essentially funded by ads.

> Im all for it

All for what? Lack of initiative and independent thinking? Did you intend this to be a reply to a different comment?

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