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I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me

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Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me

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Yea. I've been in the States for 8 years, yet sometimes my brain thinks about a word and writes it down phonetically. But hey, at least you know I didn't use ChatGPT to conjure that comment.

Sorry for the pedantry, but "thought" and "taught" are actually phonetically different (/θɑːt/ vs /tɑːt/).

I appreciate that. I tried to pronounce them, and out loud I do differentiate.

But the voice in my head does not.

Pedantry is what makes me better.

Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me

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> There were unspoken rules, commandments passed down from teacher to student, year after year. The first commandment? Thou shalt begin with a proverb or a powerful opening statement. “Haste makes waste,” we would write, before launching into a tale about rushing to the market and forgetting the money. The second? Thou shalt demonstrate a wide vocabulary. You didn’t just ‘walk’; you ‘strode purposefully’, ‘trudged we…

If you prefer a simpler style, then why did you write "the deeper I got into the world of literature" instead of "as I studied literature more"?

Why did you say you were "pushed towards" simpler language instead of "I liked it more"?

Why did you say "I feel the pain in my bones" and "drives me insane" instead of "I dislike it"?

Why did you say "the big boy SAT words should pop out of the page unaccompanied" instead of "there should only be one big word per page"?

Perhaps flowery language expands your ability to express yourself?

Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me

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I was just reading the 1897 style guide of the City News Bureau (Chicago), in the book "Hello, Sweetheart, Get Me Rewrite!". Some highlights: - Do not confuse 'night' with 'evening'. - This office spells it 'programme'. - Hotels are 'kept', not 'run'. - Dead men do not leave 'wives', but they may leave 'widows'. - 'Very' is a word often used without discrimination. It is not difficult to express the same meaning when…

For what it's worth, LWN maintains the same attitude towards "very" today.

"Very unique" has its own problem.[1] It started appearing online around 2007, according to Google Trends. Sometimes in the description of NFTs. As an absolute adjective, "unique" should not be modified.[1] But now, "very unique" has joined the vocabulary of meaningless marketing phrases.

[1] https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/very-unique-and-abso...

Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me

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Obsession with short sentences and generally pushing extreme simplicity of structure and word choice has been terrible for English prose. It’s not been terrible because most people aren’t aided by such guidance (most are) but because the same people who can’t be trusted to wield a quill without the bumper-lanes installed see a sentence longer than ten words, or a semicolon, or god forbid literate and appropriate nuan…

"He walked up to Helen and asked, 'What are you doing?'" "He strode up to Helen and asked, 'What are you doing?'" "He sidled up to Helen and asked, 'What are you doing?'" "He tromped up to Helen and asked, 'What are you doing?'" Each of those sentences conveys as slightly different action. You can almost imagine the person's face has a different expression in each version. Yes, I hate it when amateurs just search/rep…

"minced" would never be used in such fiction.

Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me

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post #277

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You forgot: "He waddled up to Helen and asked, 'What are you doing?'"

"He scrambled up to Helen and asked, 'What are you doing?'" "He kick-flipped up to Helen and asked, 'What are you doing?'" [edit] electric-slid! Pirouetted! Somersaulted!

Maneuvered, marched, slid over to, snuck up on/to, rolled on up to, ambled, thread his way through the crowd to, slithered, slunk. Pimp walked. Danced over to. Hopped over to. Sprinted! Jogged! Charged!

Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me

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post #276

> I don't write like ChatGPT. ChatGPT, in its strange, disembodied, globally-sourced way, writes like me. We will all soon write and talk like ChatGPT. Kids growing up asking ChatGPT for homework help, people use it for therapy, to resumes, for CVs, for their imaginary romantic "friends", asking every day questions from the search engine they'll get some LLM response. After some time you'll find yourself chatting wit…

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Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me

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post #276

> I don't write like ChatGPT. ChatGPT, in its strange, disembodied, globally-sourced way, writes like me. We will all soon write and talk like ChatGPT. Kids growing up asking ChatGPT for homework help, people use it for therapy, to resumes, for CVs, for their imaginary romantic "friends", asking every day questions from the search engine they'll get some LLM response. After some time you'll find yourself chatting wit…

(star-eyes emoji) You are absolutely correct, Jim!

(check-mark emoji) Add more emoji — humans love them! (red x emoji) Avoid negative words like "bullshit" and "scarier."

(thumbs-up emoji) Before long you'll get past the human feedback of reinforcement learning! (smiley-face)

Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me

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post #293

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Feel like this debate might be way different for novel writing vs every day writing. I’m biased because I am not a very good writer, but I can see why in a book you might want to hint at how someone walked up to someone else to illustrate a point. When writing articles to inform people, technical docs, or even just letters, don’t use big vocabulary to hint at ideas. Just spell it out literally. Any other way of writi…

>> Just spell it out literally. Spelling it out literally is precisely what the GP is doing in each of the example sentences — literally saying what the subject is doing, and with the precision of choosing a single word better to convey not only the mere fact of bipedal locomotion, but also the WAY the person walked, with what pace, attitude, and feeling. This carries MORE information about in the exact same amount o…

Those examples were simple, so it’s less of an issue, but if the words you use are so crazy that the reader has to read slower or has to stop to think about what you mean…then you aren’t making things more concise even if you are using less words.

Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me

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post #293

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Feel like this debate might be way different for novel writing vs every day writing. I’m biased because I am not a very good writer, but I can see why in a book you might want to hint at how someone walked up to someone else to illustrate a point. When writing articles to inform people, technical docs, or even just letters, don’t use big vocabulary to hint at ideas. Just spell it out literally. Any other way of writi…

>> Just spell it out literally. Spelling it out literally is precisely what the GP is doing in each of the example sentences — literally saying what the subject is doing, and with the precision of choosing a single word better to convey not only the mere fact of bipedal locomotion, but also the WAY the person walked, with what pace, attitude, and feeling. This carries MORE information about in the exact same amount o…

Agreed.

Brevity is the soul of good communication.

Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me

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post #25

A lot of training data was curated in Kenya[0]. I would imagine if LLM data was curated in Japan our LLMs would sound a lot like the authors of their most popular English text books. Maybe other common Japanese idioms would leak in to the training data, like "ね" or "でしょう", ChatGPT would say "Don't you agree?" at the end of every message. [0] https://www.theverge.com/features/23764584/ai-artificial-int...

樣 is just setting us up for

ChatGPT :|

ChatGPT (japan) XD

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