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Rubio stages font coup: Times New Roman ousts Calibri

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Re: Rubio stages font coup: Times New Roman ousts Calibri

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I thought I was the only one that still crossed a seven and slashed a zero. I don’t dot an ‘O’ however.

I cross my sevens, slash my zeros, and use a hook on lowercase T to avoid confusion with plus signs. I think I developed the hook-T habit in college math classes.

I didn’t even think about that one, I do that as well, and for the exact same reason! That’s too funny.

Re: Rubio stages font coup: Times New Roman ousts Calibri

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While you'll get no argument from me about the Biden government being fascist adjacent, no. The font was chosen by that government for accessibility reasons. The font has now been changed for purely aesthetic reasons, attaching the politics of anti-DEIA to a particular aesthetic (serifed fonts). As for the politics of that government, a history lesson; In 1930s Germany, Liberals did nothing to abort the rise of NSDAP…

Serif fonts are easier to read, so now I guess you have to invert your mind as to who is a fascist and who is a liberator?

Re: Rubio stages font coup: Times New Roman ousts Calibri

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Leaders and typefaces: In 1941 Adolf Hitler personally gave order to make the use of the Antiqua mandatory and forbade the use of Fraktur and Schwabacher typefaces. https://ligaturix.de/bormann.htm

Forgive my ignorance but this seems to be one of the most neutral things Hitler did. He just didn't like the font so he ordered it to be changed. Equivalent to your boss ordering tabs be used instead of spaces. After the war was lost the arguments just continued. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiqua%E2%80%93Fraktur_disput...

I rather assumed so as well, but a big of digging turns up a whole history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiqua%E2%80%93Fraktur_disput...

Surprisingly to me the Fraktur typeface was the traditional "German" typeface but was disliked by Hitler.

Re: Rubio stages font coup: Times New Roman ousts Calibri

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Calibri font has "I" and "l" the same, according to Wikipedia. A better font should avoid characters being too similar (such as "I" and "l" and "1"). Another issue is due to the font size and font metrics, how much space it will take up on the page, to be small enough to avoid wasting paper and ink but also not too small to read. So, there are multiple issues in choosing the fonts; however, Times New Roman and Calibr…

> Calibri font has "I" and "l" the same, according to Wikipedia. A better font should avoid characters being too similar (such as "I" and "l" and "1"). Only when used in a context where they can be confused. This is a situation where HN is going to give bad advice. Programmers care deeply about that stuff (i.e. "100l" is a long-valued integer literal in C and not the number 1001). Most people tend not to, and there i…

It's not like the State Department would ever mention Kim Jong the Second in documents.

Re: Rubio stages font coup: Times New Roman ousts Calibri

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Not when you are the aggressor in WW2? I guess if Russia invaded Western Europe and Putin decided to switch from Cyrillic to Latin script so the subjugated peoples would more easily read and learn Russian, that would be neutral too?

That isn’t a genuine argument. Font face != different language + different alphabet. Font, still a bad argument but technically correct. Font face, nah.

Fraktur actually does use a partially different alphabet. For example it uses the Long s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_s and Half-r: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_rotunda

Re: Rubio stages font coup: Times New Roman ousts Calibri

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Is Calibri actually more accessible? Every step of this story seems pointless and fake.

One of the reasons Calibri was selected over Times New Roman was it has a lower rate of OCR transcription errors, making documents using it easier for people using screen readers.

That doesn't make much sense, since a typewriter will neither type Calibri nor Times New Roman. And OCR should only be needed for type written documents, because any document made with Calibri or TNR is already digital.

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While mostly framed as a matter of clarity and formality in presentation, Mr. Rubio’s directive to all diplomatic posts around the world blamed “radical” diversity, equity, inclusion and accessibility programs for what he said was a misguided and ineffective switch from the serif typeface Times New Roman to sans serif Calibri in official department paperwork. In an “Action Request” memo obtained by The New York Times…

Like the choice of typeface is of literally no importance whatsoever but it is also the funniest thing in the world that there is now a DEI font.

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Re: Rubio stages font coup: Times New Roman ousts Calibri

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While mostly framed as a matter of clarity and formality in presentation, Mr. Rubio’s directive to all diplomatic posts around the world blamed “radical” diversity, equity, inclusion and accessibility programs for what he said was a misguided and ineffective switch from the serif typeface Times New Roman to sans serif Calibri in official department paperwork. In an “Action Request” memo obtained by The New York Times…

Like the choice of typeface is of literally no importance whatsoever but it is also the funniest thing in the world that there is now a DEI font.

The thing is that some section of the right has convinced itself that Calibre is some DEI font. Meanwhile the rest of the world is just living life and having to deal with people getting this worked up about the default font of Microsoft Office since what, 2008?

Parallel universes

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