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Someone at YouTube Needs Glasses: The Prophecy Has Been Fulfilled

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Re: Someone at YouTube Needs Glasses: The Prophecy Has Been Fulfilled

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And I pay for Premium, because each premium view is more valuable to the creators than the ad supported one.

for what it's worth, you could divide up your youtube premium membership cost and give that to 500 creators and they would see more revenue in their pocket than your premium watches get them. Premium viewcount is grossly over valued by the people who pay for it, because they need to justify their sunk cost. I doubt most content creators even track it because the difference is minimal. We're talking a few bucks a mont…

Creators say that premium is a huge chunk of their YouTube revenue. I'm inclined to believe them over some random like you.

Re: Someone at YouTube Needs Glasses: The Prophecy Has Been Fulfilled

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I don’t make a deal when I visit a website, and especially not when I have to visit it because it became the de-facto standard when sharing video content. I just get my computer to ask for some bytes and the server happily sends them to me. If the server happened to send me some garbage in addition, I am free to make my computer ignore it.

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You claim to know more than us.

I would love to be educated: when did I enter into an agreement with YouTube that I must watch ads to use their website?

YouTube is sueing me for damages. Their claim: I used their website but didn't watch the ads. (Maybe I used an ad blocker. Maybe I turned off my monitor and unplugged the speakers when the ads played. Maybe I walked away and let the ad play in a different room). What evidence do they submit in court to demonstrate I violated an agreement?

You've made quite a few comments across this thread, as have others that support your position. Not even within the YouTube TOS has anyone pointed out a contractual obligation to view ads. Not to mention YouTube doesn't require you to agree to their TOS to view videos.

With this in mind, it's perfectly understandable that someone could browse YouTube without any comprehension of something you seem totally confident on. I'm not being goofy here, I understand that YouTube wants me to view ads, I just genuinely am not aware of any contractual obligation to do so if I view videos.

Re: Someone at YouTube Needs Glasses: The Prophecy Has Been Fulfilled

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What deal? What contract? I'm serious. Show me in the Youtube Terms of Service where it says that blocking ads is against the contract. I've looked. Carefully. There is no such language there .

I don't think you actually looked very closely, so it's weird you've doubled down on that lol

Item 2 of "Permissions and Restrictions" says you aren't allowed to "circumvent, disable, fraudulently engage with, or otherwise interfere with any part of the Service (or attempt to do any of these things), including security-related features or features that (a) prevent or restrict the copying or other use of Content or (b) limit the use of the Service or Content;"

where "content" is earlier defined as basically anything Google/YT sends you (which would include the ad).

A quick google search also takes you to a pretty straightforward statement from Google/YT: "When you block YouTube ads, you violate YouTube’s Terms of Service."

[TOS]: https://www.youtube.com/t/terms#c3e2907ca8

[Help Center]: https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/14129599?hl=en#:~:...

Re: Someone at YouTube Needs Glasses: The Prophecy Has Been Fulfilled

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One of the things I dislike about the Youtube app on Apple TV is how it appears to maintain an entirely separate list of recommended videos, specific to the kinds of videos I tend to watch on TV, versus the phone and desktop (which might themselves also each have their own recommendation algorithm, but my behavior there is closer so as to not notice). The difference is stark. I use YouTube on the Apple TV to play mos…

Yeah, I wish the UI could let me browse the various silos of videos I like to watch instead of trying to be clever with one feed.

And it’s like Youtube thinks I only want to watch the last three genres at any moment. If I branch out, then it pops another favorite genre from the set.

Sometimes I’ll go months or even years forgetting about video genres I love until I randomly remember it.

Feels like a wasted opportunity, and it should have more in common with music apps.

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This is juvenile nonsense. I can point directly to the law in whatever jurisdiction you care to name that makes doing what you describe illegal. You cannot point to anything that makes it illegal to view videos on a publicly accessible website without watching the ads that usually play before them.

This is how I feel about claiming that stealing from YouTube isn’t actually stealing. Juvenile nonsense. That’s why I came up with a nonsense counter argument

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Google "Ethical Capital Partners." Operates: Pornhub RedTube YouPorn Brazzers Digital Playground Men.com Reality Kings SpankWire

Very US centric take here. Ya know there are other countries, languages, etc out there, right?

All of the websites I listed are in Mandarin for me and have content catered towards local fetishes. I have no idea what you're talking about.

Re: Someone at YouTube Needs Glasses: The Prophecy Has Been Fulfilled

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There are two apps called "DeArrow" and SponsorBlock that basically everyone should be using. DeArrow replaces thumbnails and titles with crowd sourced versions. I can't use youtube without it anymore. Usually the titles get replaced with stuff like "How to build a table" instead of "Watch the world explode as I try to make a table!!!!!!!!!!!!". Same with thumbnails. No longer are they over-saturated close up AI gene…

Neither of these are available on Apple TV. Otherwise, you make a good suggestion; install them where available.

At least for SponsorBlock you can run iSponsorBlockTV[1] on another computer on the same network - in addition to skipping sponsored segments, it also mutes YouTube’s own ads and auto-skips them as soon as it can.

[1] https://github.com/dmunozv04/iSponsorBlockTV

Re: Someone at YouTube Needs Glasses: The Prophecy Has Been Fulfilled

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They have also gotten more aggressive on trying to get you to sign in. I have appreciated the shitty UX changes they have made which has resulted in me using it less. It’s just filler and I need less of that in life, so thanks for chasing me away.

On my work PC, they all but forced me to create an account just to watch videos. I could not find a way around it (I didn’t try super hard). I don’t use my personal accounts on that device so I just created a throwaway.

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It may reduce decision paralysis and they are hoping their recommendation is good enough.

I honestly think that at some point, there will be no recommendations page. You'll open YouTube and it'll start autoplaying the video that they (or the advertisers) think you should see. You'll be able to skip to other videos from there, like on short-form content platforms. Likes and subscriptions will dictate how likely it'll be that you'll see a video by that creator in the future. Search and other "outdated" feat…

Isn't this just Shorts already?

Re: Someone at YouTube Needs Glasses: The Prophecy Has Been Fulfilled

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post #299

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This is juvenile nonsense. I can point directly to the law in whatever jurisdiction you care to name that makes doing what you describe illegal. You cannot point to anything that makes it illegal to view videos on a publicly accessible website without watching the ads that usually play before them.

This is how I feel about claiming that stealing from YouTube isn’t actually stealing. Juvenile nonsense. That’s why I came up with a nonsense counter argument

Negative proof. We've no obligation to prove your point for you.

You claim we're stealing.

In Texas, theft is a crime per Sec. 31.03:

> THEFT. (a) A person commits an offense if he unlawfully appropriates property with intent to deprive the owner of property.

Please link the law, and jurisdiction, that is broken when I view a YouTube video and don't view the ad.

https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/Docs/PE/htm/PE.31.htm#31....

Nobody disagrees with you that YouTube wants us to view ads.

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