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Waymo robotaxis are now giving rides on freeways in LA, SF and Phoenix

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Re: Waymo robotaxis are now giving rides on freeways in LA, SF and Phoenix

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post #143

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No, I don't think it's because you're in a taxi. I think everybody should try to cut to the front of the line. That's what everybody does in New York, and it works pretty well. It's pretty easy to understand what's gonna happen next. I've lived in New York for longer than most HN posters here have been alive, most likely. A couple of times a year, I'll end up in a car with someone who doesn't understand how this whol…

I live and drive in NYC, and this is utter bullshit. To the extent that it's difficult to drive here, it's because of assholes who think they deserve to cut the line and fuck it up for everyone else. Please stop driving here, you clearly aren't qualified to do so.

Come to the dark side.

Re: Waymo robotaxis are now giving rides on freeways in LA, SF and Phoenix

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post #112

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Luckily this won't be a problem in Los Angeles, because traffic prevents you from ever going over the speed limit.

It's hilarious to see people in LA buying sports cars. Like even if you're willing to risk a speeding ticket you won't be able to drive faster than the traffic in front of you. Just a status symbol, I guess.

traffic in LA never got back to pre-pandemic levels, maybe during the Olympics it will other than that after 9pm until 6am there's no one on the road, which is horrible for Ridesharing drivers, the demand is less and being taken by Waymo

Re: Waymo robotaxis are now giving rides on freeways in LA, SF and Phoenix

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A lot of people rely on Uber and Lyft for supplemental or primary income, so this could be very disruptive if it continues to scale. Are we not worried about this in the medium-term? Also I appreciate many of the random human interactions I've had with Uber/Lyft drivers. Of course not every ride was great, but many drivers had stories and experiences that no one I usually meet would have. For me, the safe but bland e…

It's come full circle from the people who were fighting Uber/Lyft to protect taxi drives' livelihoods

Re: Waymo robotaxis are now giving rides on freeways in LA, SF and Phoenix

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post #153

Only ridden Waymo twice but I've been much happier with them than the average Uber driver over the past few years. I keep seeing them around my home in Menlo Park (Redwood City), but they're still in testing phase and not available for booking yet.

As of this morning, they should be. My app sent me a notification today.

Aha, right you are! I wasn't logged in since I recently got a new phone.

Re: Waymo robotaxis are now giving rides on freeways in LA, SF and Phoenix

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I was in SF a few weekend ago and rode both Waymo and normal Lyft style taxi cars. the Waymo was a better experience in every single way. One of the Lyfts i was in drove on the shoulder for a while like it was a lane. The Waymos were just smooth consistent driving. No aggressive driving to get you dumped off so they can get to the next fair.

Oh great! Doing life-threatening activities is now verified by anecdotal evidence. I get there. Basically isn't any laws for corporations anymore, is there any way I can see anything in regards to the safety of this at a statistical level? Where is NHTSA? Oh right, no federal agencies exist anymore except for those that maintain the oligarchy. And I don't give a crap if Uber has really good statistics and studies and…

You could, you know, just Google it: https://waymo.com/safety/impact/. TLDR ~90% reduction of serious injury compared with human drivers.

Now, before you say this peer-reviewed paper is corporate propaganda, all self-driving companies are required by law to disclose accidents they are involved in, whether liable or not, in CA. You could access each raw accident report published by the CA DMV periodically and come up with your own statistics.

Re: Waymo robotaxis are now giving rides on freeways in LA, SF and Phoenix

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post #179

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It must be interesting being an Uber driver right now and literally watching the robots that will replace you driving around with you. This has been a 15+ year process and will probably take a few more years. I don't feel too bad if they didn't manage to pivot in that time period.

It's interesting that we're on the cusp of a major change in our world and no one is really talking about it. Self driving cars will have a profound impact on society. Everything from real estate to logistics will be impacted.

Some places are less car-dependent. That plays a role

Re: Waymo robotaxis are now giving rides on freeways in LA, SF and Phoenix

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> It must be interesting being an Uber driver right now and literally watching the robots that will replace you driving around with you. You mean just like programmers watching AI replacing them?

AI doesn't replace programmers, it's used by programmers for efficiency. Waymo is most definitely not being used by taxi or rideshare drivers to be more efficient.

Waymo definitely uses human drivers in some markets... currently

Just like AI still uses human programmers... currently

Re: Waymo robotaxis are now giving rides on freeways in LA, SF and Phoenix

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post #153

Only ridden Waymo twice but I've been much happier with them than the average Uber driver over the past few years. I keep seeing them around my home in Menlo Park (Redwood City), but they're still in testing phase and not available for booking yet.

As of this morning, they should be. My app sent me a notification today.

the service area still stops at Burlingame for me without peninsula access yet

Re: Waymo robotaxis are now giving rides on freeways in LA, SF and Phoenix

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"It must be interesting being an Uber driver right now and literally watching the robots that will replace you driving around with you." You mean the way taxi drivers had to watch as Uber and Lyft replaced them?

It's funny how "exploit workers worse (medallions) and worse (rideshares) until we can fully cut them out" has played out in such a perfect microcosm, and yet somehow people here don't seem to register that it was never the workers' own fault. Taxis didn't lose because rideshares played the game better, they lost because rideshare companies used investor money to leapfrog their apps, ignored actual commercial transpo…

Enshittifying? It's still better than taxis ever were and competition between providers is preventing that from regressing.

Re: Waymo robotaxis are now giving rides on freeways in LA, SF and Phoenix

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post #92

I am really excited for this. Once going home with my family via Uber in SFO we realized on the freeway that our driver was high and driving at 80-85 mph. It was a really scary experience and I couldn’t do much about it in the moment.

One time my driver had a TV show playing on their dashboard phone on 101.

This happens to me >70% in the Bay peninsula now.
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