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IP blocking the UK is not enough to comply with the Online Safety Act

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Re: IP blocking the UK is not enough to comply with the Online Safety Act

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Post by avadodin »

consp wrote: post #63
beejiu wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems reasonable. If I committed what is considered a crime on American soil, I wouldn't expect to be able to enter the US without arrest.

Many countries have extradition treaties with both the UK and the US. Be careful to check those as well.

Usually, countries only respect extradition treaties when there is an equivalent law on their books (the workaround would be to charge someone with bullshit charges for the extradition)

The main issue is that few countries respect freedom of speech on principle and even that group has edge cases.

Re: IP blocking the UK is not enough to comply with the Online Safety Act

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Post by [deleted] »

socalgal2 wrote: post #212
Hizonner wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's a matter of UK law and, I'd bet, many countries, that they have the sovereign right to legislate about matters in and outside their borders. Basically all countries take that position legally. But there are norms and customs about how often you exercise it (as well as practical questions of power). Extraterritorial regulation of Web sites is unfortunately in the process of being established as normal, but it's…

Some activists should start making lots of complaints demanding that country A’s government sites comply with government B’s laws. Maybe the laws will change to reflect reality when government A says to fuck off

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Re: IP blocking the UK is not enough to comply with the Online Safety Act

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Post by kassner »

scott_w wrote: post #304

This post is really mixed up which, for a lawyer, is really disappointing to read. He can’t seem to decide if Ofcom’s position is that the geo blocking was disabled or that it’s not sufficient. He seems to flip flop between the two positions throughout the post. This is really strange because he cites Ofcom’s statement! How can he not know what they’re investigating after he’s been told! In addition, he seems under t…

I guess the case he’s making is that not even Ofcom knows, because it has nothing to do with the block itself. They want to make a scene, however possible.

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Post by hexbin010 »

mellosouls wrote: post #214

A quote from Preston Byrne today on X: I do not give a single solitary fuck what any Briton thinks of any American exercising their constitutional rights If the American is lawfully exercising their rights, and the Briton has a reason to censor them, the American is right and the Briton is wrong No exceptions This probably sounds "cool" and correct to his supporters but this gung-ho black-and-white approach is hiding…

> the American is right and X is wrong

Well colour me surprised by that opinion

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Post by jackjeff »

Hizonner wrote: post #55

You shouldn't even be expected to geoblock. If I'm operating a Web site in country A, I should not have to care about country B's laws unless I am taking specific action intended to attract users in country B in particular . That's doesn't mean just to target the whole world, either. If you don't want your citizens to access something in another country, take it up with your citizens. It was obvious from the minute t…

The UK has no problem asking their ISPs to block the Pirate Bay. Why can’t OFCOM do this? I don’t understand the attempt to pursue this in a foreign country. It’s fairly obvious that what they’re doing are not considered crimes in the US and politically it looks bad from Trump and his administration. And also, until 5 mins ago I had no idea this site existed. Now I do. Seems to achieve the polar opposite as I’m in the UK and browsing a dangerous forbidden site now. Wooooo

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Post by morshu9001 »

beejiu wrote: post #9

I don't really understand the concern. The UK objects to suicide forums and American operators of suicide forums are protected by the First Amendment of extradition to the UK. So if you want to operate a suicide forum from America, just don't travel to the UK and you're okay.

I was reading anout attacks on the 1A and thought this was about the UK extrading US citizens. If this is just that you'd get arrested in the UK, then yeah this isn't a 1A concern. Though the US govt should still do something about it imo.

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Post by toyg »

mike_hearn wrote: post #271
toyg wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is clearly [...] about controlling American corporations Not exactly. On the surface, it's about kowtowing to pearl-clutching UK NGOs that are empowered by Rupert and Lachlan Murdoch's hysterical tabloids; and underneath, the real agenda is about restricting the influence of unsanctioned sites that could influence UK discourse - influence that established UK press barons (like the Murdochs, Lebedev, etc) want…

The people who are most responsive to NGO campaigning aren't overlapping much with people who read The Sun. Sorry but Murdoch can't be blamed for this one. The OSA is mostly supported by people who read The Guardian or The Times and watch the BBC. It was originally the work of academics (not big tabloid readers usually) like Lorna Woods, who is supposedly a professor of "internet law", a guy who is the founder of Ofc…

Politicians, who write the actual laws, are all extremely sensitive to tabloids.
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