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Re: Meta projected 10% of 2024 revenue came from scams

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Post by jtokoph »

fouronnes3 wrote: post #28
macNchz wrote: post #16

Alongside a password manager and keeping things up to date, using an ad blocker is truly a foundational security practice these days. The big advertising players simply have all of the wrong incentives to control this problem. They could massively reduce the volume of scams advertised on their networks, but it’d be worse for them on two fronts: they’d have to pay for more moderation, and they’d lose billions in reven…

I don't see how the yearly tech support I do with my parents at Christmas will not one day converge to an outright ban of the internet. I am now demoing the level of sofistication of AI powered scams, telling them that it is now entirely possible they will get a VIDEO CALL from me that's not actually me asking for God knows what in a very convincing way using my face and voice. I am scared and this close to setting u…

I half joke that the term “parental controls” will change meaning from restrictions set by parents on children to the opposite: restrictions now set up by children to protect their parents.

Re: Meta projected 10% of 2024 revenue came from scams

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Post by mdhb »

fouronnes3 wrote: post #28
macNchz wrote: post #16

Alongside a password manager and keeping things up to date, using an ad blocker is truly a foundational security practice these days. The big advertising players simply have all of the wrong incentives to control this problem. They could massively reduce the volume of scams advertised on their networks, but it’d be worse for them on two fronts: they’d have to pay for more moderation, and they’d lose billions in reven…

I don't see how the yearly tech support I do with my parents at Christmas will not one day converge to an outright ban of the internet. I am now demoing the level of sofistication of AI powered scams, telling them that it is now entirely possible they will get a VIDEO CALL from me that's not actually me asking for God knows what in a very convincing way using my face and voice. I am scared and this close to setting u…

Literally had this conversation this week with my parents. Weird fucking times…

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Post by mrguyorama »

strogonoff wrote: post #228
Workaccount2 wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We weren't robbed, we voluntarily gave it up. Nebula is youtube that works for you. But the conversion rate from youtube-ad-viewer to nebula-subscription-payer is <1%.

I have heard of Nebula and Floatplane. Is Nebula good? My issue is that in presence of one large player who does it for free competition is already impossible: $2 is twice as much more than $1, but $1 is infinity/NaN times more than $0. It’s one of the many problems with the fact that it is legally allowed.

>Is Nebula good?

Nebula is good in that it properly allows me to pay the people who's content and reporting and art I like and support them without giving the toxic sludge of Youtube a dime.

It also allows them to focus on doing their job: Making the good videos I want and that they want to make, rather than play some absurd algorithm games.

Floatplane is similarly better aligned with what artists and creators want to do. The guy from DankPods is much happier on that platform than something like Twitch which gave him constant problems.

The GunTubers and "Current military events but from former soldiers who act like they know what they are talking about in reference to geopolitics" have created their own platform and I hope that succeeds too. I do not agree with a lot of the politics from some of these people (and believe some others are liars) but diversity is good.

Armchair Historian also created their own platform. That might not have panned out though, they had financial troubles that led to them abandoning another project.

IMO, the best platform is Patreon linking to a bunch of MP4s on S3 (or whatever cheaper medium exists). Nebula started out just using a "Youtube copycat" whitelabling service.

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Post by DonHopkins »

9rx wrote: post #211
DonHopkins wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You maybe forgot to ask what was coming in future software updates Who exactly was I supposed to ask that? The check out cashier at the store? The CTO of the company that manufactures it? Who even knows the answer to that question, and how are millions of consumers supposed to find that out and contact them directly, and why are they permitted to reveal proprietary plans if they even know? Your arguments are delusi…

> The check out cashier at the store? Normally F-150s, and fridges for that matter, are sold not by cashiers, but salesmen. I suppose there isn't any meaningful difference in the end — except , unlike a cashier, salesmen are named as such because there is greater expectation of them being intimately familiar with the product so that they can answer such questions. If they can't, that's a pretty big red flag. Why woul…

I'd rather not buy a refrigerator that a salesman has been intimately familiar with.

Re: Meta projected 10% of 2024 revenue came from scams

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Post by DonHopkins »

9rx wrote: post #189
DonHopkins wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are we supposed to do about the fact that you are not arguing in good faith? I'm not buying what you're selling.

> I'm not buying what you're selling Which is why I'm not providing what you seek. Production goes to he who is paying, and in this case I am the one doing the paying. Thus, you know the content is written for me and me alone. > What are we supposed to do about the fact that you are not arguing in good faith? A rational actor acting in good faith would start talking terms to see the sale go through, but as you are al…

You mean "Which is why I'm not arguing in good faith". Or rational, either.

Re: Meta projected 10% of 2024 revenue came from scams

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Post by fer »

jtokoph wrote: post #311
fouronnes3 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see how the yearly tech support I do with my parents at Christmas will not one day converge to an outright ban of the internet. I am now demoing the level of sofistication of AI powered scams, telling them that it is now entirely possible they will get a VIDEO CALL from me that's not actually me asking for God knows what in a very convincing way using my face and voice. I am scared and this close to setting u…

I half joke that the term “parental controls” will change meaning from restrictions set by parents on children to the opposite: restrictions now set up by children to protect their parents.

I have the feeling that there's a sandwiched generation who will have to protect both their parents and their children from these things.

Re: Meta projected 10% of 2024 revenue came from scams

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Post by reaperducer »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #212
koakuma-chan wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What if you take YouTube to court

Ideally this but Section 230 guarantees that you will lose. The laws need to be changed.

The laws need to be changed.

My how the worm turns.

HN users used to herald that law as the best thing since Betty White (who was older than sliced bread).

Without 230, there would be no YouTube. No Facebook. No Instagram. No social media. Forums would likely have gone extinct. Half of the tech industry and a good chunk of the jobs that people on HN do would never have happened.

Now people on HN want to get rid of the law. People who are too young to know what it was like before that protection set the internet free to create and collaborate.

I despise social media. But demonizing 230 just shows a basic lack of knowledge of history, economics, and the reasons it was created.

Re: Meta projected 10% of 2024 revenue came from scams

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Post by ok123456 »

stusmall wrote: post #129

Once I got an Instagram ad for buying ketamine that just linked to a telegram channel. They didn't even bother being coy or using mispelling or slang. A simple keyword search to flag for more review would have caught it. I can't even wrap my head around what internal controls exist when something like that makes it out to users.

There are Facebook groups devoted to selling stolen cars (strikers).
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