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I took all my projects off the cloud, saving thousands of dollars
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Re: I took all my projects off the cloud, saving thousands of dollars
#312Jumping away from the article slightly, where would you go if you needed a ton of vanilla disk space, the ability to do compute near to that disk, and for it to be accessible with a reasonable pipe to the public internet? As far as I can tell, you'd almost have to do something with a colo if you didn't want to pay 10x or more for the storage. Are there other options?
Well, is "a ton" a level that can fit in a dedicated server or many? Just looking at https://serversearcher.com you've got 72TB of storage on 10Gb pipe for $360 or so a month: 128 GB RAM 6c/12t E-2276G 2X 512GB NVME + 4X 18.0TB HDD 300TB / 10Gbps
Re: I took all my projects off the cloud, saving thousands of dollars
#313Host is erroring out, so webpage is down, per cloudflare.
I'm quite sympathetic to on-prem but there's a possible argument against.
Re: I took all my projects off the cloud, saving thousands of dollars
#314Webserver is down
It is hilarious to read the title: "I took all my projects off the cloud [...]" and then you click the link it says: "Webserver is down".
Re: I took all my projects off the cloud, saving thousands of dollars
#315Engineering is all tradeoffs.
For this guy who spent thousands per month on AWS, using AWS makes no sense.
For a guy like me whose AWS bill was 38 cents last month, AWS makes a lot of sense. Currently I have a small KaiOS app with about 1000 unique visitors per month hosted on AWS. I used to self-host on an old laptop, but it costs less money to host on AWS (1 kwh cost me 19.89 cents and my laptop uses about 4.5kwh per month). Not to mention the convenience of not having to restart my server for software updates, or update my own certs every 3 months, or fuddling with nginx configurations.
And my AWS bill ever starts climbing, I will just self host once again.
Re: I took all my projects off the cloud, saving thousands of dollars
#316This is all correct. I've been running my own servers for many years now, keeping things simple and saving a lot of money and time (setting anything up in AWS or Azure is horribly complicated and the UIs are terrible). One thing to remember is that you do need to treat your servers as "cloud servers" in the sense that you should be able to re-generate your entire setup from your configuration at any time, given a bun…
This is all true. But... But if you manage your own server, as the author advice, you need to figure out a lot of stuff and remember about a lot of stuff. Are ulimits set correctly? Shall I turn on syn cookies or turn them off because of performance? What are the things I should know but I don't and Chat GPT has not told me them, as this is more than some intro tutorial on how to run VPS on DO, so it was never indexe…
Isn't this long list applied to cloud hosted VMs as well?
Re: I took all my projects off the cloud, saving thousands of dollars
#317The irony is that I went to read this article and encountered the Cloudflare error "521: Web server is down".
Re: I took all my projects off the cloud, saving thousands of dollars
#318This is all correct. I've been running my own servers for many years now, keeping things simple and saving a lot of money and time (setting anything up in AWS or Azure is horribly complicated and the UIs are terrible). One thing to remember is that you do need to treat your servers as "cloud servers" in the sense that you should be able to re-generate your entire setup from your configuration at any time, given a bun…
I was a guy that built server clusters during the early 00's, for my own and others' web and other projects. When AWS really took off, it was like a spend all your money mania, and devs and companies treated my skills like dirt. I got a job writing facial recognition edge servers, with high performance many claim are impossible numbers (25M face compares per second per core) and my employer found itself a leader in the industry. But customers could not wrap their heads around just a single box capable of our numbers (800M face compares per second, plus ingestion of 32 video streams) and to get sales the company ended up moving everything into AWS because customers did not trust anything else.
Re: I took all my projects off the cloud, saving thousands of dollars
#319This is all correct. I've been running my own servers for many years now, keeping things simple and saving a lot of money and time (setting anything up in AWS or Azure is horribly complicated and the UIs are terrible). One thing to remember is that you do need to treat your servers as "cloud servers" in the sense that you should be able to re-generate your entire setup from your configuration at any time, given a bun…
This is all true. But... But if you manage your own server, as the author advice, you need to figure out a lot of stuff and remember about a lot of stuff. Are ulimits set correctly? Shall I turn on syn cookies or turn them off because of performance? What are the things I should know but I don't and Chat GPT has not told me them, as this is more than some intro tutorial on how to run VPS on DO, so it was never indexe…
All of this is true both for dedicated servers and cloud-hosted VMs.
This list looks like FUD, to be honest, trying to scare people. Yes, you should be scared of these things, but none of them are magically solved by hosting your stuff in AWS/Azure/Google or any other could provider du jour.
Re: I took all my projects off the cloud, saving thousands of dollars
#320Earlier quoted context omitted.
Have you written about your app and revenue anywhere we can read about it? Looks interesting.
The only people writing about their revenue are online business influencers.
That seems to be quite true, as people who run a successful and enjoyable business are busy running their successful and enjoyable business :-)