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Re: M5 MacBook Pro

#311

Pretty funny how they're actively targeting M1 users with their marketing copy with this release. Sorry you made your first gen chip so good that I don't feel the need to upgrade lol.

I have a 2020 Macbook, intel... 2.3 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 is it worth upgrading?

Yes... to any Apple Silicon machine.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

#312

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I've been on a mac for ~4 years now. It was a bit of a struggle to get used to it, coming from windows. The only thing I really miss now is alt-tab working as expected. (It's a massive pain to move between two windows of the same program)

You know you can use CMD+backtick (CMD+`) to cycle between windows of the same app? Add shift to go in reverse. Or otherwise you can enable the app exposé feature to swipe down with three fingers and it will show you only windows of the same app.

This usually doesn't work for me.

For example, if I open a new Firefox window, the Mac seems to force the two Firefox windows onto different desktops. This already is a struggle, because sometimes I don't want the windows to be on two desktops. I find that if I try to move one window to the same desktop as the other, then Mac will move the other desktop to the original desktop so they are both still on different desktops.

OK, got sidetracked there on a different annoyance, but on top of the above, CMD-backtick doesn't usually work for me, and I attribute it to the windows typically being forced onto different desktops. Some of the constraints for using a Mac are truly a mystery to me, although I'm determined to master it eventually. It shouldn't be this difficult though. For sure, Mac is nowhere near as intuitive as it's made out to be.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

#313

Pretty funny how they're actively targeting M1 users with their marketing copy with this release. Sorry you made your first gen chip so good that I don't feel the need to upgrade lol.

One of the problems is that I don’t notice a meaningful difference(that’s worth the money) between my M1 and my M4 workloads. (Dev/video). Obviously the rendering is faster but the OS isn’t. Tahoe makes my M2 feel like an intel mac. Chip, memory and storage are really fast, but I’m fully convinced that the OS is crippling these machines.

It's unfortunate that MacOS continues to get worse as the hardware gets better.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

#315

Only the cheapest MacBook get M5, the rest stay with M4 Pro and M4 Max? what's going on with that lineup?

Pro/Max rollout tends to lag behind the 'base' by about 6 months

It used to be a little less 'weird' when the base M-chips were only available in the Air and 13" MBP.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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You can't expect Apple to make an argument against their own chips... you're asking them to admit that they are making ~20% a year improvements when they want buyers to think it's a multiples-of-X improvement.

How did we already get to no-one being impressed by 20% better PER YEAR already. Macs barely got faster for ages with Intel - they just got hotter and shorter on battery life. 20% per year is a doubling every 4y. That is awesome.

> How did we already get to no-one being impressed by 20% better PER YEAR already.

When has 20% been impressive? When Intel to M1 happened, the jump was huge ... not 20%. I can't think of anything with a 20% jump that made waves, even outside of tech.

When I used to do user benchmarking, 20% was often the first data point where users would be able to notice something was faster.

4 minutes vs 5 minutes. That's great! Kind of expected that we'll make SOME progress, so what is the low bar... 10%? Then we should be impressed with 20?

People aren't upgrading from M1, M2, M3 in numbers... so I don't think it's just me that isn't wow'd.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Apple really doesn't tell power-users about a lot of these features. You can really gain a lot by searching for Mac shortcuts and tricks. I still learn new things that have been around for over a decade.

I'd argue if you need to be told about keyboard shortcuts, then you're not a power user. (I.e., knowing how to find keyboard shortcuts I'd consider a core trait of power users).

Keyboard shortcuts should be exposed in some fashion. IMO, Microsoft is typically better at this.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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The lack of WiFi 7 is disappointing. 6E is fine but by now I'd expect 7 in new computers.

Good chance they'll introduce it with the upcoming M5 Pro/Max; the non-pro/max devices always tended to be a little lower spec all around.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

#319

Pretty funny how they're actively targeting M1 users with their marketing copy with this release. Sorry you made your first gen chip so good that I don't feel the need to upgrade lol.

I have a 2020 Macbook, intel... 2.3 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 is it worth upgrading?

In terms of performance, thermals, and battery life, it was a huge upgrade for me when I moved from Intel to the M1 Max. M1 Max to the M4 Max... improvements were mainly on very heavy tasks, like video transcoding with Handbrake or LLMs with Ollama.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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To any Linux users, I recently bought a fully loaded M4 MacBook pro to replace my aging Lenovo and strongly regret it. I thought I would use it for playing with LLMs, but local dev on a Mac is not fun and I still don't have it fully set up. I'll probably replace it with a framework at some point in the near future. Edit: okay, that garnered more attention than I expected, I guess I owe a qualification. 1. Everything…

I thought the same thing when I saw the M5 in the news today. It’s not that I hate macOS 26, hate implies passion.. what I feel is closer to disappointment.

The problem is their philosophy. Somewhere along the way, Apple decided users should be protected from themselves. My laptop now feels like a leased car with the hood welded shut. Forget hardware upgrades, I can’t even speed up animations without disabling SIP. You shouldn’t have to jailbreak your own computer just to make it feel responsive.

Their first-party apps have taken a nosedive too. They’ve stopped being products and started being pipelines, each one a beautifully designed toll booth for a subscription. What used to feel like craftsmanship now feels like conversion-rate optimization.

I’m not anti-Apple. I just miss when their devices felt like instruments, not appliances. When you bought a Mac because it let you create, not because it let Apple curate.

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