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No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by majkinetor »

badsectoracula wrote: post #82
brushfoot wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My main reasons for using Windows right now are: - Davinci Resolve - Adobe suite - AutoHotkey scripts, lots of them - Microsoft Office, mainly PowerPoint, Excel and Word for creating and interacting with other companies' docs. Libre/OpenOffice mangled them/were missing features I depend on - Issues with my laptop's Nvidia card (screen tearing etc.) last time I tried to switch, and rabbit holes that I don't have time…

About AutoHotKey, you can do similar stuff as long as you are using X11 as there are various utilities for it, such as xdotool[0]. There is even an AutoHotKey-for-Linux project[1] (it also needs X11 - the author did try to port it to Wayland but gave up). For Wayland there are some alternatives like ydotool[2] (actually AFAIK since ydotool uses some daemon to inject events it works with anything, not just Wayland, bu…

There is nothing like AHK. All mentioned tools are toys in comprison.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by sebtron »

shmerl wrote: post #293
sebtron wrote: post #289

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No, AMD. I had issues on the latest Debian, released this summer, with KDE. X11 works perfectly fine. I would be happy with wayland too, if it worked. And in fact I use it on my other device.

What kind of issues though with what GPU? I'm using Debian testing, it all works fine with AMD and KDE Plasma Wayland session. With AMD, always make sure to use latest kernel, Mesa and amdgpu firmware.

The Steam main window did not open, although Steam itself did load in the background. I could work around this by disabling smooth scrolling on web view and some other GPU-related option (I forgot exactly).

But then there was a strange glitch on every single game (both native and Proton-based). Periodically (e.g. every ~10 seconds on some 3D games, on every screen reload on some other) the screen turned black for about 2 seconds.

Then I remembered that I had some issue when I first installed Debian 12 two years, though I forgot which issues exactly, and that I solved them by switching from Wayland to X11.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by userbinator »

hulitu wrote: post #279
bonoboTP wrote: post #158

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It seems that after the 90s/00s MS hate, there was a period where MS was seen as the good guys, and "this isn't the same MS" etc. Seems to be turning around again.

> there was a period where MS was seen as the good guys Some people are really naive.

There was a period when they were as hostile to Linux and non-Windows as a competitor would naturally be, but they were not hostile to users.

Try Windows 98/2K in a VM and see how peaceful the Windows experience used to be.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by JadeNB »

vee-kay wrote: post #299
zwnow wrote: post #263

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People dont care about their operating system. Most Mac users never learn Mac and most Windows users never learn windows. They use their computers for emails, some presentations and occasional gaming. They dont want to learn different kinds of software. Which is fine. For most people its just a power tool they never read the manual for. They dont even know what other tools there are so they dont know that life could…

I just wish MacOS would allow me to have the Minimize, Maximize/Restore,Close buttons on top-right corner (default in Windows), rather than top-left (which is counter-intuitive for right-handed users, using the mouse). Even Linux allows such basic customization. If Apple allowed this type of user-friendly customisation on MacOS, I suspect a lot of Windows users will migrate to Mac.

> I just wish MacOS would allow me to have the Minimize, Maximize/Restore,Close buttons on top-right corner (default in Windows), rather than top-left (which is counter-intuitive for right-handed users, using the mouse).

> Even Linux allows such basic customization.

Does Windows allow such customization? I think that's the relevant comparison. Both macOS and Windows are trying to be "user-friendly," which more and more means "take what we tell you and like it." I personally am a techie and like the Unix way of exposing everything that one can imagine to customization, but I do know that I'm often lost when I want to learn a new piece of customization-minded software and have to decide how to, and whether to, twiddle lots of knobs before even getting into just using it. I think that there's definitely a reasonable place for an OS that spends its time getting those settings right so that the user doesn't have to worry about them.

(Whether any particular setting is right or wrong is, of course, going to depend on the user. I'm a Mac user, there are some defaults I've always hated, and others that I think used to be good but are moving in the wrong direction. But, so far, I stick with it at least in part because there are lots of other things it gets right, and it doesn't feel fundamentally hostile to me in the way that Windows does.)

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Post by excalibur »

Delk wrote: post #292
rootusrootus wrote: post #234

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I've been a Mac & Linux user since about 2007 or so, and I had no idea what Windows had become. Then a couple weeks ago I caved and built my son a Windows gaming PC. Egads, Windows is annoying! Even more so than I remember! I'm amazed that people actually put up with it for their daily driver. Right on schedule, my son came to me yesterday evening and asked what he should do about the backup warning. It didn't give a…

On their own devices, lots of non-power users probably just accept whatever Windows suggests. Enterprise versions of Windows either don't have a lot of the crap or they allow it to be disabled by company IT. Techie users might just find tweaks online that allows disabling dark patterns on their devices. I don't know how people who care but aren't techie enough to install workarounds (or to tell good ones from bad one…

> Enterprise versions of Windows either don't have a lot of the crap or they allow it to be disabled by company IT.

Generally if the company is deploying Windows they are using OneDrive, although the exact configuration will vary.

Windows has always been designed with corporate customers in mind. That's true more than ever today, the whole Azure ecosystem is very lucrative for them. Personal Windows users have always been an afterthought, but starting around Windows 10 they became less important than their own data. Which Microsoft has been getting away with brazenly claiming as its own.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by majkinetor »

McGlockenshire wrote: post #277
sugarpimpdorsey wrote: post #179

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An open source developer (the creator of Ruby on Rails and Omarchy Linux) made a political comment someone didn't like. Now there is a concerted effort by a small group of terminally online histrionics to ruin his life and get all his projects cancelled. The comment was apparently made on his personal blog and not in any official capacity.

> made a political comment someone didn't like It should be noted that this specific framing ("it's just a disagreement," "someone didn't like it," "it's nothing big") is used by the people that, instead, like the "comment." It's an extremely common pattern. So is one of the words he uses later, "histrionics." The comment in question is an ethnonationalist blog post. Not a comment somewhere, but an actual goddamn ess…

He expresses his opinions on his own blog. You are being extremely toxic in public.

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Post by zaptheimpaler »

McGlockenshire wrote: post #277
sugarpimpdorsey wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An open source developer (the creator of Ruby on Rails and Omarchy Linux) made a political comment someone didn't like. Now there is a concerted effort by a small group of terminally online histrionics to ruin his life and get all his projects cancelled. The comment was apparently made on his personal blog and not in any official capacity.

> made a political comment someone didn't like It should be noted that this specific framing ("it's just a disagreement," "someone didn't like it," "it's nothing big") is used by the people that, instead, like the "comment." It's an extremely common pattern. So is one of the words he uses later, "histrionics." The comment in question is an ethnonationalist blog post. Not a comment somewhere, but an actual goddamn ess…

I'm one of the immigrant groups people don't seem to like very much these days, but even I recognize some degree of ethnonationalism or desire to restrict immigration is NOT bigotry. I can empathize how jarring it must be to begin to feel like a minority in your own country - even if they aren't minorities nationally, they may be in local urban pockets. Unfettered immigration IS causing problems in many places, is often supported by businesses looking for cheap labor and it's absolutely reasonable to be opposed to it.

Moreover, the false equivalence you're drawing between opposition to immigration and bigotry is part of what let the problem fester in the first place. I think people should be allowed to oppose immigration without being called racist, its not the same thing. The open bigotry and racism by the right in many countries is partly a reaction to this false equivalence. They saw immigration in some cases as causing social disorder, as a tool to suppress wages, as causing increased crime etc. and they were forcefed a message of "all immigration is good and any opposition is racist" to reasonable objections. No one is obligated to accept every person who wants to come in.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by shmerl »

sebtron wrote: post #312
shmerl wrote: post #293

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What kind of issues though with what GPU? I'm using Debian testing, it all works fine with AMD and KDE Plasma Wayland session. With AMD, always make sure to use latest kernel, Mesa and amdgpu firmware.

The Steam main window did not open, although Steam itself did load in the background. I could work around this by disabling smooth scrolling on web view and some other GPU-related option (I forgot exactly). But then there was a strange glitch on every single game (both native and Proton-based). Periodically (e.g. every ~10 seconds on some 3D games, on every screen reload on some other) the screen turned black for abo…

What DE? And that's with all the latest components as above? I wouldn't use Debian stable for gaming purposes, since it falls behind very quickly. Debian testing / unstable is a better idea, and even then you'd want to install latest amdgpu firmware manually potentially.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by crazygringo »

Telaneo wrote: post #297
crazygringo wrote: post #165

There are few things that irritate me more than the gradual replacing of "Yes / No" with "Yes / Maybe later". It's so disrespectful, infantilizing, and paternalistic. But you see it everywhere now -- Microsoft, Apple, mainstream respected news and media sites constantly asking if you want to use their app instead of their site, or upgrade your plan. And I don't understand why . It's hard to believe it increases conve…

> It's hard to believe it increases conversion. It isn't for me. I see people being converted just to stop the nagging, or just doing it on auto-pilot. It worries me, but it makes it pretty obvious why the corps aren't asking for proper consent. They don't care, they don't need to, and it's clearly working.

What I'm saying is, if they're going to nag you anyways, "yes/maybe later" doesn't obviously seem more likely to get people to click yes than "yes/no". In response to e.g. "Do you want to enable x right now?"

I believe nagging increases conversion. I'm just taking about the obnoxious "maybe later" wording.

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