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Re: Meta Ray-Ban Display

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Post by frosting1337 »

throwoutway wrote: post #250
al_borland wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is my #1 issue. I simply don’t trust them and I don’t know that there is a realistic path to build that trust at this point. They’ve been violating my trust for decades. I’m happy to let them prove out the tech, and if/when a company enters the market with a compelling product that I can trust, I will consider that competing product.

OP is taking videos of his baby with these when Meta's page here doesn't event mention data privacy or security of the user's information or how it protects them

Yes, it does, the link to Data & Privacy is at the bottom.

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Post by tsimionescu »

ubb_server wrote: post #233
bee_rider wrote: post #160

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VR gaming seems like it is a bit of a niche, though. I think they want to sell glasses in quantities more like cellphones than gaming peripherals. I agree they are reaching (and not finding) for an application.

I agree that VR gaming is a niche, but I think it could be explosively improved if we had the kind of all-in idealism that the previous commenter referred to. I think because VR gaming IS niche, we haven't yet delved into what VR/AR could do in non-gaming. An idea that I've had before is like 'augmented curated experiences' for all kinds of things--for example imagine playing a Magic the Gathering (or similar) card g…

> for example imagine playing a Magic the Gathering (or similar) card game, and watching your cards come to life on the board in hologram-esque 3D

This is the kind of thing that buries VR ideas. It's very cute in a demo, but as an actual product, the cost of coming up with 3D models and animations for all MTG cards currently being played is many orders of magnitude more than the total number of people who would pay for this. Ultimately this is completely unnecessary fluff for the game, like chess games where the pieces actually fight: irrelevant, and it actually detracts from the game because it interrupts the flow of what you're actually doing.

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Post by dmbche »

zmmmmm wrote: post #303
stavros wrote: post #248

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You're saying "you've already used the first two ingredients, so go ahead and add the sauce" is the prerecorded response when it doesn't have a connection?

the thing is, if it loses the connection, why on earth would the correct behaviour be to just keep repeating the last response? It should just straight up say, "Sorry I'm having trouble connecting". Even the best case scenario here suggests terrible product design.

Hard agree on terrible. I guess i'd have disabled the no connectivity message for the demo to give it a chance to reconnect gracefully/quickly if at all (by non stop querying even without wifi) but that's just guessing on my part. I think they're garbage and same for meta, if that needs saying

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Post by mrandish »

zmmmmm wrote: post #81
wronglebowski wrote: post #22

The live demo of this is brutal. https://x.com/ns123abc/status/1968469616545452055

If you watch it carefully, he preempts the AI with "What do I do first" before it even answered the first time. This strongly suggests it did this in rehearsal to me and hence was far more than just "bad luck" or bad connectivity. Perhaps the bad connectivity stopped the override from working and it just kept repeating the previous response. Either way it suggests some troubling early implications about how well Meta…

> Either way it suggests some troubling early implications about how well Meta's AI work is going

I fully expect the AI to suck initially and then over many months of updates evolve to mostly annoying and only occasionally mildly useful.

However, the live stage demo failing isn't necessarily supporting evidence. Live stage demos involving Wifi are just hard because in addition to the normal device functionality they're demoing, they need to simultaneously compress and transmit a screen share of the final output back over wifi so the audience can see it. And they have to do all that in a highly challenging RF environment that's basically impossible to simulate in advance. Frankly, I'd be okay with them using a special headset that has a hard-wired data link for the stage demo.

Re: Meta Ray-Ban Display

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Post by zmmmmm »

bryant wrote: post #25

The biggest thing stopping me from getting these is knowing that a derivative of Meta's Orion AR prototype will release to manufacturing in the next few years, and this just feels like a stop-gap. But the wrist/hand control is the thing that impressed me the most in today's release. I'd hope for this to go far beyond just the glasses.

> knowing that a derivative of Meta's Orion AR prototype will release to manufacturing in the next few years

You actually know that? how? Just the leaked road map or something more concrete?

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Post by vunderba »

stavros wrote: post #123
TIPSIO wrote: post #42

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If you’ve ever used the current Meta Ray Ban and AI, this almost exactly happens when the connection is bad. Pure confusion but the AI still tries to give you an answer. I bet the device hardware is small/cheap and susceptible to interference

I have the Meta glasses and I've never noticed this, and don't even understand why it could be the connection's fault. The AI gets your audio and your image, if it gives the wrong answer, it's because the AI went wrong. How would the bad connection ever affect it?

Exactly. Like... what are they even saying here - that if the connection drops then it falls back to a tiny "dropped on their head as a child" 4b parameter LLM embedded in the physical firmware and so that's why it is giving inane responses?

Mad props to the presenter for holding it together though.

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Post by ghostpepper »

SilverElfin wrote: post #240
aacook wrote: post #99

It seems like there are a lot of negative comments about Meta's glasses which is surprising to me as a regular user. I bought these both in clear and sunglasses and I love them. I've recorded some of the most amazing videos of my baby with them. Listening to music is fantastic as it's different from regular headphones since you can still hear the world around you — I've even done a few longer bike rides with them and…

These things have cameras and mics in them. Am I the only one concerned about people walking into every space with surveillance systems that are capturing us and sending that data to some random set of companies who have no obligation to keep our information confidential? How can I have a conversation with a friend wearing one of these? And surely workplaces will ban these?

Most of the people in this thread are agreeing with you. You are not even close to the only one.

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Post by cbsmith »

zmmmmm wrote: post #168
SchemaLoad wrote: post #116

>Meta Ray-Ban Display glasses are designed to help you look up and stay present. With a quick glance at the in-lens display, you can accomplish everyday tasks—like checking messages, previewing photos, and collaborating with visual Meta AI prompts Can you imagine trying to talk to someone face to face, but they are giving you a blank stare as random notifications and tiktok videos are being beamed inbetween their eye…

I do think we're in for a bit of a reality check on how human attention works. I have a HUD in my car that shows me directions, speed etc and when I'm looking at that the rest of the view out the windscreen is hardly even there to my visual perception even though I'm looking right at it. This seems to be getting largely overlooked but I feel like over time statistics are going to emerge that HUD type displays are inc…

What's amusing is the original use case for HUD displays was to reduce attention problems. ;-)

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Post by signatoremo »

JustExAWS wrote: post #289
jryle70 wrote: post #272

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Are you using Chinese brands? Tiktok, AliExpress, ByteDance, Binance, Tencent? If you have no problems with them but with Meta, that's hypocrisy on your part. I myself don't really have problems with them, and neither with Meta. I don't think they have a brand problem other than in bubbles like HN.

The Chinese government can’t do anything to affect my daily life. I would much rather the Chinese government know everything about me.

So you wouldn’t have problems with Meta if they weren’t American? Do you think Chinese people should use Meta’s products, if they were available there?
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