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ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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Post by f33d5173 »

wnevets wrote: post #20

That free speech crowd has been very very quiet the last week

The left wing is the free speech crowd. The right wing has never had a principled belief in free speech. It was always their intention to turn cancel culture back at their enemies when the opportunity arose. I'm still reeling that it was supposed liberals that came up with "freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences" or "hate speech is not free speech" which are now being used against them. And they have learned absolutely nothing, and fully intend to go back to cancelling people for asinine reasons when they can.

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Post by raydev »

tptacek wrote: post #17

Keep in mind that Kimmel has been hinting about retiring for a couple years now, his contract was up in the air, the "late night television show" category is evaporating (if there's still even a Tonight Show in 10 years, it'll be purely for nostalgia), and this sends Kimmel out in a blaze of glory. I think it's too easy to sort of anthropomorphize these kinds of conflicts --- Kimmel's show has a large staff, and he's…

All that's probably true, but the average person thinks Trump single-handedly accomplished this. Annoying because he certainly contributed, but he's not the sole reason.

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Post by throwacct »

ceejayoz wrote: post #284
seanw444 wrote: post #275

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Confused politics isn’t all that unusual; look at Caitlyn Jenner for a concrete example. Add in the usual bad blood between well-armed groups and it certainly happens. I wish everyone would wait a week for actual reliable info to come out. I wish we weren’t getting a bunch of said info from deeply partisan and untrustworthy fuckwits. Neither end result would shock me.

According to the latest iteration, his right-wing family said he was left-wing and even neighbors saw him with his roommate.

Freedom of speech is protected. That people are celebrating a man's death, and worse yet, justifying it, is evil but still protected. But what's not protected is the consequences of these actions. I don't want to live, work, etc... next to someone who thinks that it's ok to commit acts of violence against others just because we don't share the same views.

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Post by [deleted] »

sointeresting wrote: post #286
romellem wrote: post #263

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except all indications are the show was pulled because of pressure from the government . The FCC threatening “we can do this the easy way or the hard way” is not constitutional.

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Post by ceejayoz »

throwacct wrote: post #314
ceejayoz wrote: post #284

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Confused politics isn’t all that unusual; look at Caitlyn Jenner for a concrete example. Add in the usual bad blood between well-armed groups and it certainly happens. I wish everyone would wait a week for actual reliable info to come out. I wish we weren’t getting a bunch of said info from deeply partisan and untrustworthy fuckwits. Neither end result would shock me.

According to the latest iteration, his right-wing family said he was left-wing and even neighbors saw him with his roommate. Freedom of speech is protected. That people are celebrating a man's death, and worse yet, justifying it, is evil but still protected. But what's not protected is the consequences of these actions. I don't want to live, work, etc... next to someone who thinks that it's ok to commit acts of viole…

> But what's not protected is the consequences of these actions.

But this is protected in this case.

I can unfriend you on Facebook for saying “I’m not sad he’s dead”. (And to be clear, Kimmel didn’t even go that far.) I can kick you out of my birthday party. I can complain to your employer. They can fire you. (They can fire you for having tattoos, or red hair!)

But the government cannot do these things. That is the entire point of the First Amendment. The FCC can not threaten the license of a broadcaster for protected speech, but we are here anyways.

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Post by kcplate »

iamdelirium wrote: post #274
mrandish wrote: post #233

We really need to stop the cancelling of people for saying controversial, disagreeable and even deeply offensive things. I don't agree with what Kimmel said and I wouldn't have said it myself but it also wasn't outside the bounds of opinions which should be able to be expressed. If you're nodding along in agreement, then you should also know my long-term commitment to consistency in tolerating factually wrong, distas…

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> In this case, it is the FCC, an arm of the government, that is pressuring ABC to do this rather than other private citizens.

Actually it was a couple of big ABC affiliate owners that started the avalanche, and ABC followed…not any government pressure.

You can certainly speculate that the these affiliates had an ulterior motive in their actions to curry favor with the Trump administration, but it’s not unreasonable nor unheard of for station affiliates to make decisions about content and programming to avoid alienating or offending a large portion of the markets they serve or the advertisers that pay their bills.

In the end this is about eyeballs and advertising dollars and it’s no more nefarious than that.

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Post by johnny22 »

Vaslo wrote: post #270
afavour wrote: post #148

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Kimmel didn’t even criticise Kirk. He’s a mainstream TV comedian and nothing he said “turned up the heat”. The reality is very simple: Nexstar wants federal approval for a merger. They know engaging in this censorship increases the likelihood of their merger being approved. So you’re exactly as jaded as you should be, just with the wrong target.

Nah, reality is even simpler than your conspiracy. These late night guys are money losers and they are looking for a reason to drop them. The fact that they nightly insult 80 million potential viewers with their arrogant and unneeded leftist opinions is bad for business. It doesn’t matter how Jimmy and his leftist writer feel, that’s their business they should keep out of the job. They need to maximize shareholder va…

then what you do, is just not re-up the contract or buy it out. That could have been done at any time.

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Post by suzdude »

andrewchambers wrote: post #220

I've seen a large number of comments online saying the shooter was a trump supporter - I don't really understand where that information comes from. I feel like this is the sort of thing a prediction market might be able sort out.

There are multiple statements from his relatives that his family are "MAGA", his parents are Registered Republicans.

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/crime/ty...

It seems he was "raised right", with easy access to firearms and ammunition. Items not nearly as common in left voting urban areas.

However, Mr. Kimmel's comments centered on the fact that his political leanings, and reasoning for the school shooting are not entirely clear.

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