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Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

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Re: Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

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Post by LexiMax »

dotancohen wrote: post #173
abandonliberty wrote: post #159

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I was really surprised when I first got an iPhone. After all the hype about it being so intuitive and polished, it was just different. Some things better, some things worse. But Apple devices take a bit longer to go obsolete, and seem just a tiny bit less invasive as they don't rely on an advertising model for revenue.

For the few months that I had to use an iPhone in addition to my regular Android phone, I also tried to convince myself that some things were better and some things were worse. But the iOS keyboard was completely unusable for me as a power user, and it cannot be replaced. I was missing so many features of Gboard. I absolutely could not consider an iPhone or any other replacement phone for that matter, if it does not…

> But the iOS keyboard was completely unusable for me as a power user, and it cannot be replaced.

If you're still on Android, try FUTO keyboard. I found the voice-to-text feature to actually be on par with Google's, but without the delay of a phone-home.

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Post by Lord-Jobo »

treecrypto wrote: post #37
rcarr wrote: post #25

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I felt this way at one point and vocally proclaimed as such on here. My Fold 5 developed a bubble under the screen protector after about 18 months. I sent it into Samsung through the website to get it repaired. Whoever "repaired" it, just seemed to slice the screen protector down the middle with an knife so it had a big ugly line down the center. Predictably, it was full of bubbles again within a week. I'm not even b…

>I had another two Samsung phones that developed hardware faults making them unusable after 2 years of use, I'm absolutely done with Samsung I haven't tried any foldable phones and I have no intention to anytime soon, but with other samsung phones my experience has been completely different. I've only ever used Samsung smartphones, and the only times they broke was when I dropped them or mishandled them myself someho…

My experience with 5 Samsung phones over 10ish years, last one being 2019:

Great hardware that nearly always impresses. Very infrequent hardware issues compared to its main competitors (in the android space).

Extremely annoying software experience. Locked bootloader aside, as I recognize that's only an issue for a very small group. But the software goes through these intense hills and valleys where you can go a long time without updates, with bugs, with bloat, with problems. Then a burst of updates that seem to address many of those issues, then it just slides back into the shit. And the amazing hardware is dragged down in this cycling, to the point where the phone will feel old at an accelerated rate. I've hard that exact complaint about apple and a few other android manufacturers many times but only Samsung has genuinely given me that experience.

It's very unfortunate. If they unlocked the bootloader I could bypass the software issues myself and have damn near the perfect phone.

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Post by whycome »

sanswork wrote: post #244
whycome wrote: post #220

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Pretty sure it's limited due to iOS. Because it does allow period to be added.

Just checked with the iOS keyboard development guide and app store review and see no rules against it. Why are you pretty sure it is limited due to the OS?

Because the exact same feature is available on the Android version. No other ios keyboard has it. And the default ios keyboard doesn't have it.

I'm not sure of another reason.

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Post by whycome »

GrantS wrote: post #284
whycome wrote: post #202

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iOS must have changed some things related to keyboards. On an iPhone many years ago it was definitely a better experience. I’m not sure if some sort of predictive text gets in the way or what. Or maybe something with the spacing. Or it also seems like some sort of thread priority issue because there are times where I can distinctly tell that there’s some sort of input lag that’s messing with it. Gboard is crippled on…

Wow, as others have said below, disabling the “Slide to Type” feature in Settings > General > Keyboard makes typing work well again on iOS. I cannot believe I put up with this awful typing experience for the past year/years. This should be broadcast more widely somehow. I’m sure many people have just assumed they got worse at typing. I am genuinely flabbergasted.

HOLY shit. You just changed my life. You're absolutely right. It fixed the exact problem I could never quite pin down. I guess the keyboard was always a bit too eager to detect a swipe? This is absolutely nuts

edit: i can type without looking again! i hate that this was the issue.

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Post by whycome »

geoelectric wrote: post #251
dav43 wrote: post #224

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Been using iPhone for years and I swear the keyboards accuracy has turned to absolute shit. I am convinced through my experience that they have definitely changed something and made it terrible. It’s making me consider getting an android cos that’s how we use our phones - with a keyboard.

I've noticed the iOS keyboard has fundamentally different tap recognition based on whether swipe typing is enabled. It looks the same but behaves differently enough that I have a hard time believing it shares code. When I turn off swipe, my tap accuracy goes MASSIVELY up, and a lot of the autocorrect screwiness seems to abate considerably. I can go back to blind thumb typing. That said, swipe is so useful, I’ve left…

I can't believe this is it. But this is it. Too bad there's no quick toggle to turn it back on? It's possible to create a shortcut for it maybe. I currently have a back tap bring up a menu of different shortcuts I use. Shortcuts is another aspect that's really under utilized because the UX just sucks so much.

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Post by ewoodrich »

kayodelycaon wrote: post #215
ewoodrich wrote: post #206

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I've been using an iPhone I got from a carrier deal for the last year after using Android phones since the T-Mobile G1, and the notification shade drives me insane on iOS. Notifications in general are so much more annoying to deal with on iOS vs Android. For the love of god please just let me clear all notifications! Also, how Apple seems to deliberately avoid including a shortcut to the full settings anywhere in the…

I think these features are or can be implemented. But they are definitely not obvious. And it’s possible they weren’t there when you first used an iPhone. To clear all, swipe down on the top left to show Notification Center. You should see an X button right of the words “Notification Center”. If you want to launch an app from control center, open control center (swipe down from the battery icon), press and hold on a…

1. That only clears notifications not considered “recent”. Any notifications above that cutoff have to be cleared manually (and sometimes there can be a lot).

2. This is actually helpful thanks, don’t think of using a shortcut and making one myself!

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Post by MBCook »

thewebguyd wrote: post #303
MBCook wrote: post #152

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I heard a stat the other day in the Dithering podcast, I’m not sure from where, that said that foldable phones are something like 1.7% of the market in the US. If that’s close it’s not why Samsung‘s market share increased so much. That was for ALL foldable phones of all brands. That wouldn’t make statistical sense. There are people who like foldable phones. Apple does not have them. And Samsung‘s market share went up…

Yeah I doubt the foldables are driving it. I also bet the numbers will change now that the 17 is out. These things are cyclical, and whomever releases first in a year typically gets a small boost. Samsung releases phones twice a year, Jan/Feb and July typically, while Apple is once a year in the fall. These numbers are also only for one quarter. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see Android's market share increase in t…

A separate point they made on the same episode is that when Apple releases a foldable phone (rumored for next year) it might significantly increase the number of foldable sold for all brands.

It would give the idea of foldable phones a big visibility boost so more people would know they exist, thus perhaps more would buy them.

Think about how popular MP3 players were before the iPod, and how popular they were after even for non-Apple ones. It raised a lot of awareness.

It’s an interesting idea. Personally I have a hard time seeing a foldable phone being something I would be interested in. But I’m curious to see Apple’s take.

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Post by geoelectric »

whycome wrote: post #315
geoelectric wrote: post #251

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I've noticed the iOS keyboard has fundamentally different tap recognition based on whether swipe typing is enabled. It looks the same but behaves differently enough that I have a hard time believing it shares code. When I turn off swipe, my tap accuracy goes MASSIVELY up, and a lot of the autocorrect screwiness seems to abate considerably. I can go back to blind thumb typing. That said, swipe is so useful, I’ve left…

I can't believe this is it. But this is it. Too bad there's no quick toggle to turn it back on? It's possible to create a shortcut for it maybe. I currently have a back tap bring up a menu of different shortcuts I use. Shortcuts is another aspect that's really under utilized because the UX just sucks so much.

I think I looked for a shortcut action to no avail. But if you find one I'd be interested!

I assume it's something to do with distinguishing swipes from taps with both active, but it really is a marked difference.

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Post by tomrod »

dkobia wrote: post #46

I thought the idea of a folding phone was just a cash grab until I saw someone on the plane across the aisle from me interacting with one. It has been a while since I saw someone get so much enjoyment out of a device. The back and forth between folded and unfolded to read messages and watch movies/read a book was mesmerizing. It made me realize that this form factor could actually enhance the user experience in a mea…

It's a mini laptop with a digital keyboard. Whats not to love? :)

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Post by thewebguyd »

MBCook wrote: post #317
thewebguyd wrote: post #303

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Yeah I doubt the foldables are driving it. I also bet the numbers will change now that the 17 is out. These things are cyclical, and whomever releases first in a year typically gets a small boost. Samsung releases phones twice a year, Jan/Feb and July typically, while Apple is once a year in the fall. These numbers are also only for one quarter. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see Android's market share increase in t…

A separate point they made on the same episode is that when Apple releases a foldable phone (rumored for next year) it might significantly increase the number of foldable sold for all brands. It would give the idea of foldable phones a big visibility boost so more people would know they exist, thus perhaps more would buy them. Think about how popular MP3 players were before the iPod, and how popular they were after e…

It'd definitely be interesting to see the affect on the foldable market if Apple releases one.

I'm still skeptical on that happening though. I don't think the screen tech is ready for an Apple quality device yet, and Apple is historically very into device separation - they try not to blur the lines between their products. iPad will never be a mac, macs will never have touch screens, I have a hard time seeing them making a phone that effectively becomes an iPad mini.

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