Another reason to switch from Intel to AMD is that Intel is in the top priority segment of the following list while AMD is not on the list at all:
I am giving up on Intel and have bought an AMD Ryzen 9950X3D
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Re: I am giving up on Intel and have bought an AMD Ryzen 9950X3D
#312Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not convinced, what would be the use case?
Data science where you need to keep ~50GB of data in RAM and do intensive things with it (e.g. loop over it repeatedly with numba). You can't get use out of more than 4 cores because memory bandwidth is the only limitation. The data is too big for AMD's cache to be a factor. Threadripper is built for this. But I am talking about the consumer options if you are on a budget. Intel has significantly more memory bandwidt…
This? https://old.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1ak2f1v/ram_mem...
I can't see how that supports your conclusion.
Re: I am giving up on Intel and have bought an AMD Ryzen 9950X3D
#313Earlier quoted context omitted.
Please post a HWiNFO64 screenshot. I have reasons to believe you're making this up. Not a single user has seen such low idle power consumption for desktop Zen AMD CPUs.
Could it be that that some cores are constantly being waked up by something? I mention that since you seem to be on Windows, which itself has a hard time to just shut up, but that is also easily paired with bad drivers, stupid software and bad peripherals.
> I mention that since you seem to be on Windows, which itself has a hard time to just shut up, but that is also easily paired with bad drivers, stupid software and bad peripherals.
I happen to be on Fedora Linux 42 and Windows 11 but my primary OS has been Linux for almost 30 years now.
Idle power consumption under Windows and Linux is exactly the same. Linux doesn't have any magical tricks to make it lower.
Windows has more services running in background but they don't meaningfully affect idle power consumption at all.
The entire Reddit topic confirms my statement, multiple over hundreds of reviews confirm what I said, yet it's
> paired with bad drivers, stupid software and bad peripherals.
It's kinda hard to be an AMD fan when you live in an alternative reality, huh?
Re: I am giving up on Intel and have bought an AMD Ryzen 9950X3D
#314Earlier quoted context omitted.
Please post a HWiNFO64 screenshot. I have reasons to believe you're making this up. Not a single user has seen such low idle power consumption for desktop Zen AMD CPUs.
Sure, it's reported by the Radeon Software, but I'll check HWiNFO64 soon and post a screenshot.
52 minutes to post a screenshot?
Guess someone doesn't want to be embarrassed.
Re: I am giving up on Intel and have bought an AMD Ryzen 9950X3D
#315Earlier quoted context omitted.
The big problem with ECC for me is that the sticks are so much more expensive. You'd expect ECC UDIMMs to have a price premium of just over 12.5% (because there are 9 chips instead of 8), but it's usually at least 100%. I don't mind paying reasonable premium for ECC, but paying double is too hard to swallow.
Trouble with enterprise is that the people buying care about the technology, but not the cost, while the people that do care about cost don’t understand the technology. Some businesses (and governments) try and unify their purchasing, but this seems to make things worse, with the purchasing department both not understanding technology and being outwitted by vendors.
> Trouble with enterprise is that the people buying care about the technology, but not the cost
Enterprise also ruins it for small/medium businesses as well, at least those with dedicated internal IT departments who do care about both the technology and the cost. We are left with unreliable consumer-grade hardware, or prohibitively expensive enterprise hardware.
There's very little in between. This market is also underserved with software/SaaS as well with the SSO Tax and whatnot. There's a huge gap between "I'm taking the owner's CC down to best buy" and "Enterprise" that gets screwed over.
Re: I am giving up on Intel and have bought an AMD Ryzen 9950X3D
#316For the past 30 odd years I've hand picked and built a desktop PC (which also acts as a home server) pretty much every year, selling the "old" one each time. I really enjoy it as a hobby and for the benefits of understanding and optimizing a system at the parts level. Even though there is a lot of nonsense created by all the choices and marketing, I really prefer the parts approach, and am happy with Linux so a Mac i…
To be honest, much of the sense that Apple is ridiculously far ahead when it comes to unified memory SoC architectures comes from people who aren't actually invested in any kind of non-Nvidia local AI development to the degree where you'd actually notice a difference (either the AMD AI Max platform or Apple Silicon Ultra). Because if you were, you'd realize that the grass isn't greener on these unified memory platforms, and no one in the industry has a product that can compete with Nvidia on any vertical except "things for Jeff Geerling to make a video about".
Re: I am giving up on Intel and have bought an AMD Ryzen 9950X3D
#317Yeah, nice: > I get the general impression that the AMD CPU has higher power consumption in all regards: the baseline is higher, the spikes are higher (peak consumption) and it spikes more often / for longer. > Looking at my energy meter statistics, I usually ended up at about 9.x kWh per day for a two-person household, cooking with induction. > After switching my PC from Intel to AMD, I end up at 10-11 kWh per day.…
The 9950X3D is equivalent to the Intel Core Ultra 9 285K which uses even more power. The X3D series are extreme gaming chips.
Re: I am giving up on Intel and have bought an AMD Ryzen 9950X3D
#318For the past 30 odd years I've hand picked and built a desktop PC (which also acts as a home server) pretty much every year, selling the "old" one each time. I really enjoy it as a hobby and for the benefits of understanding and optimizing a system at the parts level. Even though there is a lot of nonsense created by all the choices and marketing, I really prefer the parts approach, and am happy with Linux so a Mac i…
At a meta-level, I wonder if there's this un-talked about advantage of poaching ambitious talent out of an established incumbent to work a new product line in a new organization, in this case Apple Silicon disrupting Intel/AMD. And we've also seen SpaceX do this NASA/Boeing, and OpenAI do it to Google's ML departments.
It seems like large, unchallenged organizations like Intel (or NASA or Google) collect all the top talent out of school. But changing budgets, changing business objectives, frozen product strategies make it difficult for emerging talent to really work on next-generation technology (those projects have already been assigned to mid-career people who "paid their dues").
Then someone like Apple Silicon with M-chip or SpaceX with Falcon-9 comes along and poaches the people most likely to work "hardcore" (not optimizing for work/life balance) while also giving the new product a high degree of risk tolerance and autonomy. Within a few years, the smaller upstart organization has opened up in un-closeable performance gap with behemoth incumbent.
Has anyone written about this pattern (beyond Innovator's Dilemma)? Does anyone have other good examples of this?
Re: I am giving up on Intel and have bought an AMD Ryzen 9950X3D
#319Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is there some tricky edge case here? I thought the “3” and “4” just denoted generations. The Ultra chips are like Apple’s equivalent of a workstation chip, they are always bigger right? It is like comparing the previous generation Xeon to a current gen i5.
Apple has been iterating IPC as well as increasing core count. The Ultra is a pair of Max chips. While the core counts didn't increase from M3 to M4 Max, overall performance is in the neighborhood of 5-25% better. Which still puts the M3 Ultra as Apple's top end chip, and the M5 Max might not dethrone it either. The uplift in IPC and core counts means that my M1 Max MBP has a similar amount of CPU performance as my M…
Yeah, I thought that was it. I was confused because they describe it as “wacky,” haha. The Ultra chips are the result of scaling up a given generation.
Of course, each generation has some single-core improvements and eventually that could catch up, but it can take a while to catch up to… twice as much silicon.
Re: I am giving up on Intel and have bought an AMD Ryzen 9950X3D
#320Last Intel desktop CPU that I bought was Pentium 133Mhz. It was also my first PC. Never again ratio of performance to price in my preferred price range favored Intel.
my first Intel was a 286 (DX2-66), and I just did a double-take reading this article when I saw “the Intel 285K CPU”
ah if only they had incremented that number by one… a new 286 even just in name would be sooo funny… not as funny as bringing back the number 8088 of course