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Google can keep its Chrome browser but will be barred from exclusive contracts
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Re: Google can keep its Chrome browser but will be barred from exclusive contracts
#312By the way, a pet peeve of mine right now is that reporters covering court cases (and we have so many of public interest lately) never seem to simply paste the link to the online PDF decision/ruling for us all to read, right in the story. (and another user here kindly did that for us below: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.223... ) It seems such a simple step (they must have been using the rul…
> By the way, a pet peeve of mine right now is that reporters covering court cases never seem to simply paste the link to the online PDF decision/ruling for us all to read right in the story. I presume that this falls under the same consideration as direct links to science papers in articles that are covering those releases. Far as I can tell, the central tactic for lowering bounce rate and increasing 'engagement' is…
I don't read science/tech articles from major news outlets for this reason. They NEVER link to the papers and I always have to spend a few minutes searching for it.
This doesn't happen nearly as often on smaller sci/tech news outlets. When it does a quick email usually gets the link put in the article within a few hours.
Re: Google can keep its Chrome browser but will be barred from exclusive contracts
#313Earlier quoted context omitted.
Shoutout Ars Technica, where they never seem to sweat the… lost ad revenue? diminished time on page?… and give the PDF link.
Sure, after you dismiss the pop-up telling you to become an ars subscriber. I’m only angry about this because I’ve been on ars since 2002, as a paid subscriber for most of that time, but I cancelled last year due to how much enshittification has begun to creep in. These popups remove any doubt about the decision at least. (I cancelled because I bought a product they gave a positive review for, only to find out they h…
Lol if you aren't blocking those popups by default. Lots of extensions will take care of that for ya.
Re: Google can keep its Chrome browser but will be barred from exclusive contracts
#314Once again a monopoly escapes any real consequence and the rich keep getting richer.
Re: Google can keep its Chrome browser but will be barred from exclusive contracts
#315This seems like a very sensible and logical conclusion by the judge to me. An exclusive contract with Apple/Samsung isn't great, but even Apple testified that they would not have accepted any other searcch engine because everyone else was worse. You can't make restrictions on what Apple is allowed to do because Google violated some law--if Apple wants to make Google the default, they should be allowed to do so! The b…
>built Chrome into the best browser available today
haha what? Not even close to true. Chrome is a locked down money maker for Google. It is primarily a data-collection tool for Google. No way is that possibly the best browser available today.
Re: Google can keep its Chrome browser but will be barred from exclusive contracts
#316Earlier quoted context omitted.
AI is a competitor. You know how StackOverflow is dead because AI provided an alternative? That's happening in search too. You might think "but ChatGPT isn't a search engine", and that's true. It can't handle all queries you might use a search engine for, e.g. if you want to find a particular website. But there are many many queries that it can handle. Here's just a few from my recent history: * How do I load a share…
quit that narrative! stack overflow is dead because it's garbage! try to visit it without being logged in, the entire screen is covered by four halfscreen popups! then search is useless and require to be logged. when you finally give in, the answer is deleted by overzealous power tripping users. it's a miracle it survived that long. and i think it saving grace was that nobody wanted to browse reddit at work, nothing…
And now they're going to enshittify the comment UI
Re: Google can keep its Chrome browser but will be barred from exclusive contracts
#317A loser in this is Perplexity. I’ve never understood the thesis of Apple purchasing them: whether or not you enjoy their product, I see nothing defensible or interesting and suspect they’re among the most overvalued AI startup. Nonetheless, I’d bet Apple will do more of what’s worked: partner with Google to solve something core that they’re not great at. I’d take a deeply integrated Gemini on the iPhone over Siri any…
why couldn't perplexity fork firefox/chromium and make it chromy?
Re: Google can keep its Chrome browser but will be barred from exclusive contracts
#318I think ultimately this is a good decision. The web has flourished in part because Google has supported Chrome so well over the years since they are incentivized to do so. You don't have to use Chrome (I don't) to benefit from this second order effect.
Google has systematically shittified the internet with Chrome by pushing bunk standards that other browsers are forced to adopt.
Just recently they got fed up with ad-blockers so what do they do? Yeah. Then what just happened with android apps? yeah.
Google is not good for the internet. Anyone saying this is just sucking google's dick and siding with a major corporation.
Also fuck AMP.
Re: Google can keep its Chrome browser but will be barred from exclusive contracts
#319This seems like a very sensible and logical conclusion by the judge to me. An exclusive contract with Apple/Samsung isn't great, but even Apple testified that they would not have accepted any other searcch engine because everyone else was worse. You can't make restrictions on what Apple is allowed to do because Google violated some law--if Apple wants to make Google the default, they should be allowed to do so! The b…
> Google started, developed, and built Chrome into the best browser available today I don’t think this is as settled as you imply. I tend to like Google products, and do almost everything in the Google ecosystem. But my browser is normally brave or Firefox, because better Adblock is so so impactful. I feel that chrome is a valid alternative, but that no browser is really clearly “the best”. In your view, what is it t…
> In your view, what is it that makes chrome the best?
As a former Firebug fan: Chrome/Chromium has had superior browser dev-tools experience for over a decade now.
Re: Google can keep its Chrome browser but will be barred from exclusive contracts
#320This is an astonishing victory for Google, they must be very happy about it. They get basically everything they want (keeping it all in the tent), plus a negotiating position on search deals where they can refuse something because they can't do it now. Quite why the judge is so concerned about the rise of AI factoring in here is beyond me. It's fundamentally an anticompetitive decision.
Feels like judge was looking for any excuse not to apply harsh penalty and since Google brought up AI as competitor, the judge accepted it as acceptable excuse for very minor penalty.
I mean, it's a judge. This is the mahogany and tweed set. There's not going to be a harsh judgment against a bunch of shareholders. That's not how this works.