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Re: GPT-5

#312

Damn, you guys are toxic. So -- they did not invent AGI yet. Yet, I like what I'm seeing. Major progress on multiple fronts. Hallucination fix is exciting on its own. The React demos were mindblowing.

> The React demos were mindblowing.

How are they mindblowing? This was all possible on Claude 6 months ago.

> Major progress on multiple fronts

You mean marginal, tiny fraction of % progress on a couple of fronts? Cause it sounds like we are not seeing the same presentation.

> Yet, I like what I'm seeing.

Most of us don't

> So -- they did not invent AGI yet.

I am all for constant improvements and iterations over time, but with this pace of marginal tweak-like changes, they are gonna reach AGI never. And yes, we are laughing because sama has been talking big on agi for so long, and even with all the money and attention he can't be able to be even remotely close to it. Same for Zuck's comment on superintelligence. These are just salesmen, and we are laughing at them when their big words don't match their tiny results. What's wrong with that?

Re: GPT-5

#313

ChatGPT5 in this demo: > For an airplane wing (airfoil), the top surface is curved and the bottom is flatter. When the wing moves forward: > * Air over the top has to travel farther in the same amount of time -> it moves faster -> pressure on the top decreases. > * Air underneath moves slower -> pressure underneath is higher > * The presure difference creates an upward force - lift Isn't that explanation of why wings…

Extremely common misconception. NASA even has a website about how it's incorrect

https://www.grc.nasa.gov/www/k-12/VirtualAero/BottleRocket/a...

Re: GPT-5

#314
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I hate the direction that American AI is going, and the model card of OpenAI is especially bad. I am a synthetic biologist, and I use AI a lot for my work. And it constantly denies my questions RIGHT NOW. But of course OpenAI and Anthropic have to implement more - from the GPT5 introduction: "robust safety stack with a multilayered defense system for biology" While that sounds nice and all, in practical terms, they a…

> But they are specifically targeting my field

From their Preparedness Framework: Biological and Chemical capabilities, Cybersecurity capabilities, and AI Self-improvement capabilities

Re: GPT-5

#315
So models are getting pretty good at oneshotting many small project ideas I've had. What's a good place to host stuff like that? Like a modern equivalent of Heroku? I used to use a VPS for everything but I'm looking for a managed solution.

I heard replit is good here with full vertical integration, but I haven't tried it in years.

Re: GPT-5

#316

Going by the system card at: https://openai.com/index/gpt-5-system-card/ > GPT‑5 is a unified system . . . OK > . . . with a smart and fast model that answers most questions, a deeper reasoning model for harder problems, and a real-time router that quickly decides which model to use based on conversation type, complexity, tool needs, and explicit intent (for example, if you say “think hard about this” in the prompt).…

Related ongoing thread:

GPT-5 System Card [pdf] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44827046

Re: GPT-5

#317
Some people have hypothesized that GPT-5 is actually about cost reduction and internal optimization for OpenAI, since there doesn't seem to be much of a leap forward, but another element that they seem to have focused on that'll probably make a huge difference to "normal" (non-tech) users is making precise and specifically worded prompts less necessary.

They've mentioned improvements in that aspects a few times now, and if it actually materializes, that would be a big leap forward for most users even if underneath GPT-4 was also technically able to do the same things if prompted just the right way.

Re: GPT-5

#318
Looks like the predictions of 2027 were on point. The developers at OpenAI are now clearly deferring to the judgement of their own models in their development process.

Re: GPT-5

#319
All of their prompts start with "Please ...".

Gotta be polite with our future overlords!

Re: GPT-5

#320

Going by the system card at: https://openai.com/index/gpt-5-system-card/ > GPT‑5 is a unified system . . . OK > . . . with a smart and fast model that answers most questions, a deeper reasoning model for harder problems, and a real-time router that quickly decides which model to use based on conversation type, complexity, tool needs, and explicit intent (for example, if you say “think hard about this” in the prompt).…

Many tiny, specialized models is the way to go, and if that's what they're doing then it's a good thing.

Not at all, you will simply rediscover the bitter lesson [1] from your new composition of models.

[1] https://www.cs.utexas.edu/~eunsol/courses/data/bitter_lesson...

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