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Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by computerdork »

kergonath wrote: post #302
computerdork wrote: post #295

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And (even though I don't support him in any way), would say the election of Trump is in part due to the constant wins of the white collar work force. Most of the examples you gave of revolutions led to greater democracy and greater socialism, which benefits the blue collar, but ironically, in this case, the blue collar elected a autocratic conservative. Again, am not a Trump supporter in anyway, but agree that when t…

> And (even though I don't support him in any way), would say the election of Trump is in part due to the constant wins of the white collar work force. Definitely. He tapped the anger and resentment of an underclass. The shame is that this underclass does not really see how he is harming them and how his politics benefit their old ennemies, the economic elite that’s turning into oligarchs. > Most of the examples you…

Agreed, overall, they're only hurting themselves economically

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Post by geraldwhen »

kergonath wrote: post #238
newswasboring wrote: post #208

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Please give me an example of what happens. Edit: before someone throws very strong platitudes at me again, I would like to see real-world examples. Because at least in my lifetime there have been zero consequences for people in power. Edit 2: I've been banned from replying to this thread (lol, talk about power of the state). I guess I didn't define my acceptance criteria properly. But I thought it would be clear that…

> Please give me an example of what happens. It’s easy to forget after 80 years of stable western democracies, but brutal equilibrium shifts do happen. There was a revolution every ~20 years in Europe between 1789 and 1917. And even during the 20th century, the history of much of the world is full of coups, revolts, and uprisings. See all the revolutions in ex-soviet republics, the Arab spring, etc. So you can pick a…

Modern police and military gear is so advanced that revolution is unrealistic.

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AnimalMuppet wrote: post #172
Balgair wrote: post #89

I did one of these once. Once . I felt so bad afterwards that I swore them off forever. It's not like the 'interview' was terrible or anything. I knew it was AI from the start. It was just that when I got done with it, I realized that I had talked at a computer for ~45 minutes. And, yet again, I was going to be ghosted by the company (I was), and that I was never going to get those 45 minutes back. That was time I co…

The key is skin in the game. If a human interviews me, if they're wasting my time, they're also wasting their own. So they have some incentive not to do that. But if an AI interviews me, the humans have no incentive not to waste my time. You want to have an AI interview me? No. It can interview my AI agent if you want, but not me . You want to interview me? Put a human on the line.

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Post by nosianu »

Aurornis wrote: post #278
colechristensen wrote: post #117

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My rule for interviews is the company has to spend equal human time or I decline. This means no 8 hour tests, no talking to computers, no special little projects for me to evaluate me. You get equal face time and no more than 45 minutes of me doing anything by myself (that's the max leeway). If you want me to do anything else either I'm getting paid short term contractor rates or making you make a sizable donation to…

In my experience, candidates who demand equivalent face time always underestimate how much time is spent selecting candidates, reviewing resumes, scheduling interviews, preparing the interview structure, reviewing interviews, advocating for candidates to progress, getting their offers approved, dealing with HR, and the countless other things that go into getting someone from the application phase to being hired. If y…

And candidates spend no time preparing??

I feel your comment is a bit one-sided, no?

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Post by ryandrake »

brushfoot wrote: post #187
ep103 wrote: post #128

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This is prime HR style lying. The response is: Problem statement. Claim that reality is the opposite of the problem statement, with no justification given, despite obvious evidence to the contrary. Statement that if reality doesn't match their claim, the worker is at fault. End of statement. Dystopian, infuriating, unethical and immoral.

> While some worry AI will dehumanize the hiring process, we believe the opposite. Look at the language Coinbase uses. Only their view is a "belief." The opposing view is a "worry." Others are motivated by fear. Only holy Coinbase is motivated by love! This is, of course, doublethink. We all know that removing humans from the hiring process is, by definition, dehumanizing. Coinbase's article would have been more pala…

Companies shouldn't be making business decisions based on "belief" or "worry." Show the research that demonstrates which one is actually true.

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Post by rapind »

kergonath wrote: post #219
shermantanktop wrote: post #193

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It surprises me that the monied elite seem to have so little awareness of what happens when they keep winning.

What is even more infuriating is that they can keep winning. They just have to stop being arseholes about it and pay lip service to wealth redistribution and social progress. It’s their winner-takes-all fuck-you-got-mine mentality that is pouring fuel on the fire

That's probably why "old money" doesn't like "new money". New money is crass, loud, and obnoxious. Old money knows that it's best to keep to the shadows, at least until one of their idiot kids ruins it.

I think the inability for people to control themselves, while probably our greatest weakness, is also what often saves us. The greed goes too far and then there's a massive backlash (revolution).

Technology is trying to neuter any potential backlash though. I mean who can be bothered with a revolution while there's youtubes to watch and AIs doing everything for you! I'm still optimistic we'll smarten up eventually.

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Post by epolanski »

siva7 wrote: post #114
Balgair wrote: post #89

I did one of these once. Once . I felt so bad afterwards that I swore them off forever. It's not like the 'interview' was terrible or anything. I knew it was AI from the start. It was just that when I got done with it, I realized that I had talked at a computer for ~45 minutes. And, yet again, I was going to be ghosted by the company (I was), and that I was never going to get those 45 minutes back. That was time I co…

Somehow i would rather stay homeless or prostitute myself than throwing my dignity away by letting an a.i. assess me over the whole job interview. Yet this is where we are heading. Being graded by openai (and co). Iris scanned by openai. Who knows what comes next..

We have been allowing countless of different algorithms and tests to cross us out from decades.

I do agree AI feels too much, but how's that different from companies sending me timed puzzles, riddles, random logic tests, and so on?

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