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Re: NSF has suspended Terry Tao's grant

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Post by lupusreal »

WJW wrote: post #35
willvarfar wrote: post #12

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This is breaking news over the last few days. Some of the coverage https://www.ft.com/content/2fe65dbf-65a5-41f3-aaab-5661c0146...

Sure, but what kind of action does it imply? North Korea is recognized by (almost?) every country too, but that doesn't mean anyone is hurrying to provide aid to starving North Koreans. Similarly the international recognition of Azerbaijan and Armenia did nothing to prevent one from taking Nagorno-Karabach from the other earlier this year. So "recognizing the Palestinian state" is all good and well, but unless anyone…

Rabid zionists don't want people to recognize Palestine because if Palestine doesn't in some sense exist then in some sense that erases the crime zionists are committing in eradicating Palestine.

It's crazy but that's how it works. Refusal to recognize Palestine is a form of dehumanization, one of the key stages of genocide.

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Post by hermitcrab »

lupusreal wrote: post #289
hermitcrab wrote: post #185

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I've never really understood the relationship between the US and Israel. The US gives Israel pretty much whatever it wants and in return the US gets ... nothing? Israel even (deliberately?) attacked a US ship during the 6 day war, with little (if any) consequences: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident >While millions of American evangelical Christians have long been fervent supporters of the Jewish stat…

Those apocalyptic prophecies are a big part of it, yes. Many politicians are believers in those prophecies, and many more count on votes from those believers. There's also the whole "God's chosen people" stuff, and a lot of older people think Israel should be given a blank cheque due to WW2 stuff. And of course some of it comes from wealthy donors like Miriam Adelson, a desire to go overboard to distance themselves f…

It isn't much comfort that people who believe in apocalyptic prophecies have significant power in a country with a lot of nuclear weapons.

Re: NSF has suspended Terry Tao's grant

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Post by nyantaro1 »

xrayarx wrote: post #117

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terence_Tao Tao won the Fields Medal in 2006 and won the Royal Medal and Breakthrough Prize in Mathematics in 2014, and is a 2006 MacArthur Fellow. Tao has been the author or co-author of over three hundred research papers, and is widely regarded as one of the greatest living mathematicians.

Why is this at the very bottom?

Re: NSF has suspended Terry Tao's grant

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Post by insane_dreamer »

fabian2k wrote: post #20
willvarfar wrote: post #7

Public support for Israel is steadily falling; this poll was published just a couple of days ago https://news.gallup.com/poll/692948/u.s.-back-israel-militar... and other G7 countries are moving to recognise Palestine. So will the administration's push to use pro-Israel reasons to censure and penalise the universities steadily get out of touch with what the public want and sympathise with?

Antisemitism is just an excuse for these actions against universities, it's a pretext. Not a particularly believable one anyway, but that doesn't seem to matter. The Trump administration is punishing institutions that disagree with it, or that it dislikes for some reason.

> Not a particularly believable one anyway, but that doesn't seem to matter

it's well chosen because it's also one that requires no proof, since "anti-semitism" has long been the worst accusation one can make, and one that's very hard to refute without demonstrating unequivocal loyalty to Israel and its actions; it's basically a purity test

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Post by moralestapia »

dargscisyhp wrote: post #317
moralestapia wrote: post #314

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Yea, but most other immigrants are also far from being that productive.

I knew this comment was coming.

You'd be surprised at how productive many of them are.

Just as you've been trained to react to the academic stimulus, memorize all the emacs' shortcuts and whatnot; you can also be trained to acknowledge many of the things other immigrants do.

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Post by slumberlust »

consumer451 wrote: post #296
PartiallyTyped wrote: post #142

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We can agree that decades of soft power are gone. So it’d take twice as much to ameliorate.

> soft power This term appears to have been redefined by podcast and twitter bros as something really, really bad. They can't define it, but it's bad. Similar to that four letter word that starts with "w."

A rose by any other name would smell as sweet. What do you want to call it? Then we can focus the discussion on the issue and not semantics.

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Post by water9 »

dargscisyhp wrote: post #317
moralestapia wrote: post #314

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Yea, but most other immigrants are also far from being that productive.

did he reach his ultimate goal? Cause right now it sounds like he spent millions of dollars and didn’t achieve it
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