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UK backing down on Apple encryption backdoor after pressure from US

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Re: UK backing down on Apple encryption backdoor after pressure from US

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Is there more than one Moore that has written authoritarian fiction set in the UK?

Consider that "moore UK authoritarianism" turned up zero relevant search results. You shouldn't over-estimate the popularity of your favorite comic book authors.

“moore authoritarianism fiction author” is a more reasonable search and answers the question.

Your search also answered the question, in the fourth result or so.

Re: UK backing down on Apple encryption backdoor after pressure from US

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Consider that "moore UK authoritarianism" turned up zero relevant search results. You shouldn't over-estimate the popularity of your favorite comic book authors.

“moore authoritarianism fiction author” is a more reasonable search and answers the question. Your search also answered the question, in the fourth result or so.

Google tailors search results to you. When I searched up their search, it showed me nothing relevant as well.

"moore authoritarianism fiction author" worked though.

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“moore authoritarianism fiction author” is a more reasonable search and answers the question. Your search also answered the question, in the fourth result or so.

Google tailors search results to you. When I searched up their search, it showed me nothing relevant as well. "moore authoritarianism fiction author" worked though.

Yes and regardless the point is its some extremely niche author. The vast majority of anglophones aint gonna know him.

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Even in the US, even if Apple doesn’t have a backdoor, isn’t NSA linked up into the telecom companies already?

What are the chances that the NSA has a useful zero-day on the TLS encryption standard?

Probably not on the standard itself, but practically a guarantee they have attacks on the major implementations, especially OpenSSL.

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All the in-transit encryption in the world won't matter if they've pwned the decrypted client device. Every company from your device's manufacturer, OS vendor, telecom carrier, app distributors and 3rd party software providers can be compelled to help make that happen. And then there's always Cellebrite and friends.

This is not just encryption in transit or simplistic client-side encryption. It is end-to-end encryption, where each device's key generation is handled by your phone's Secure Enclave. This article is a decent starting point in terms of what Advanced Data Protection is: https://support.apple.com/en-us/102651 If you want a deeper dive into the security engineering of iCloud Keychain, the second half of this Blackhat ta…

I'm aware of what E2EE is, all the encryption in the world does not matter if either end of the conversation is confiscated or pwned by adversaries.

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I assumed they’d only have asked for it if they’d already OKed it with the US, and that it was probably part of a plan to give US access too via 5-eyes sharing. Turns out it was not 4D chess after all…

I think if we'd had a "normal" administration, this probably would have been pushed by the US government. The US services have been gunning for this for decades . But we have an administration that seems extremely disjointed in what it wants to do and why it wants to do it. I'm kind of curious about the internal conversations that must be happening on the other side of 5-eyes nations services as they're trying to acc…

For better or for worse, JD Vance is extremely online, and no one in his cryptocurrency-hoarding right-libertarian tweetsphere thinks government backdoors are a good idea.

I don't think there is much disjoint if you see Trump as a fairly clean break with the cold-war era GOP. The thing is that no one in the US remembers the cold war with pride. The left thinks the cold war was US imperialism. The right kind of agrees, and has moved on to other issues anyways. And Europe nudges, saying: "Hey, you're America. You love fighting cold wars! Remember?"

Too many Europeans are Chomsky-brained and believe that US foreign policy is controlled by the CIA. The reality is that US grand strategy is incoherent and has been for decades. The US doesn't have any actual strategic imperatives at the moment, and it's being pulled in too many different directions. I believe George Friedman argues that this is a recurring pattern in US history, where US foreign policy alternates between listlessness, and maniac focus on some objective (most recently in the wake of 9/11).

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This article is explicitly about how J.D. Vance (age 40) & others at the White House are forcefully advocating for preserving E2E encryption. Arguably not for the right reasons, but still. I'm not sure what you mean by "more" but what you are asking for is in fact happening.

They are forcefully pushing for whatever the position of US companies is in conflicts between US companies and EU regulators. The position of the US executive on encryption is well summarized by the Lavabit case.

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This is my fundamental problem with Elizabeth Warren et. al.. They act like the choices are omni-powerful US tech companies, or a plethora of small companies building utopia. They say "we need to hamstring our most successful companies to make space in the market for smaller players." The problem is that it isn't making space for smaller players; it's making space for countries with worse perspectives on human rights…

Did this approach ever actually work out in the history of humanity? Like, we're fine with massive corporations spying on us because otherwise the Chinese/Russian/Aliens might? In the name of protecting freedom, we're violating it ourselves and we brag about it?

Facebook offered its services in the EU to people without any tracking if you paid for the service. The Eu didn’t like that either.

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I agree that no one needs Facebook and if it disappeared off of the face of the earth, nothing of value would be lost. And even a simplified version of AWS shouldn’t be impossible to build that’s “good enough” [1] or another search engine that’s good enough (Google) and Google search sucks these days anyway. But Europe is not going to be able to replicate the ecosystem of Android like China did and definitely not App…

Meta subsidizes a very large proportion of the world’s communication (in the form of Whatsapp/Instagram/Facebook). Even if 98% of it is unnecessary garbage, the functionality for that last 2% has provided a ton of utility to billions of people.

With RCS being widely adopted even by Apple, do you really need WhatsApp anymore?
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