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A Typology of Canadianisms

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Re: A Typology of Canadianisms

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Well, why not include the word "Canadian", which significantly predates the country, as the prime example? It's derived from Iroquois Nation words and used by French settlers to refer to Indigenous people. The word "Canada" was used by explorer Jacques Cartier to refer to the city now called "Québec". It broadly refered to the territory of a specific Indigenous tribe. (could be derogatory, but seemingly accurate / ma…

>> Their chant "go, habs, go" refers to the "habitants" The province of Quebec has very strong language laws intended to protect the French language. Heavy-handed? You be the judge. City buses in Montreal were recently "pressured" to stop displaying the chant (one of the most Quebecois things you can say to promote your pride) because it's English. Instead they were told to use the super-common-rolls-off-the-tongue-a…

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Re: A Typology of Canadianisms

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post #167

Well, why not include the word "Canadian", which significantly predates the country, as the prime example? It's derived from Iroquois Nation words and used by French settlers to refer to Indigenous people. The word "Canada" was used by explorer Jacques Cartier to refer to the city now called "Québec". It broadly refered to the territory of a specific Indigenous tribe. (could be derogatory, but seemingly accurate / ma…

> For anyone interested in Canadian history, always check-out the French version of a wikipedia page In reading about Canadian history this entire comment strikes me as very "East" biased? (Because I'm reading a strong implication that the French are the true holders of the history and the English just showed up later. Which may very well be true) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_alienation

> I'm reading a strong implication that the French are the true holders of the history

I interpreted this more as "don't forget to check out the French-language Wikipedia articles too, since they might have contents that are absent from the English-language Wikipedia articles." This would likely be the case for anything concerning Québécois or Acadien culture, or the early settlements by the French; but not likely for most things west of Ottawa (aside from some pockets like Grande Prairie, Alberta or Saint Boniface, Manitoba).

It seems everyone outside of Ontario feels some kind of alienation or other. The west, as you mentioned, but also the maritimes, and especially the Québécois.

Re: A Typology of Canadianisms

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Toilet, bog or lav in the UK are some options. The easy to remember terms and will work nearly anywhere without giving offence are: "loo" in a residential property or "gents/ladies" for a non-residential property.

and also the lavatory

That'll be the lav.

Re: A Typology of Canadianisms

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Nah if you say someone chirped you say, on the street or in a pub, it's fighting words...

I've always took it as the opposite. Chriping is just noise with no real threat (most chirping birds are not a threat to humans). It's just someone being friendly with their banter usually in a making fun of you type context.

Maybe it's regional but definitely was fighting words when I grew up in Alberta. If you were bantering with your friends we'd just call it "bullshitting", "talking shit", etc...

Re: A Typology of Canadianisms

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post #296

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> For anyone interested in Canadian history, always check-out the French version of a wikipedia page In reading about Canadian history this entire comment strikes me as very "East" biased? (Because I'm reading a strong implication that the French are the true holders of the history and the English just showed up later. Which may very well be true) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_alienation

> I'm reading a strong implication that the French are the true holders of the history I interpreted this more as "don't forget to check out the French-language Wikipedia articles too, since they might have contents that are absent from the English-language Wikipedia articles." This would likely be the case for anything concerning Québécois or Acadien culture, or the early settlements by the French; but not likely fo…

> It seems everyone outside of Ontario feels some kind of alienation or other. The west, as you mentioned, but also the maritimes, and especially the Québécois.

Yep, and then there's Newfoundland, which isn't even part of the maritimes. (No worries though, they're used to being excluded)

Re: A Typology of Canadianisms

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Only in some parts of the world. In many it's the room and the object

Soviet apartments had a separate rooms for the toilet and the area with a bath/shower/sink. The area behind the toilet was usually a hinged wall that could be opened to reveal the entry point for utilities. I assume toilet hands were an unspoken issue, because there was no possible way to traverse from the toilet room to the washroom without touching anything. For a complete tangent, I’ll mention that Soviet toilets…

Ah yes, [a Dutch toilet](https://noplacelikeanywhere.com/destinations/dutch-toilets-a...)! A most regrettable invention.

Re: A Typology of Canadianisms

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post #167

Well, why not include the word "Canadian", which significantly predates the country, as the prime example? It's derived from Iroquois Nation words and used by French settlers to refer to Indigenous people. The word "Canada" was used by explorer Jacques Cartier to refer to the city now called "Québec". It broadly refered to the territory of a specific Indigenous tribe. (could be derogatory, but seemingly accurate / ma…

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Re: A Typology of Canadianisms

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Quebec has it's own dictionary.

And Quebec has it’s own English. I spent a few years working in Montreal and soon learned about “passing the vacuum” and “closing the light”. There are so many bilingual folks that concepts and word orders flow back and forth. I had an interesting discussion with a bilingual anglophone about how in English elsewhere it’s called a “pacifier” and not a “souce”

They're literally translating from French to English because they don't know any better. In French you open and close lights and all other electronics... that's just how it works. On and off isn't a thing. So it's not it's own form of English, it's French people making mistakes.
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