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Open letter accuses BBC board member of having a conflict of interest on Gaza

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Re: Open letter accuses BBC board member of having a conflict of interest on Gaza

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>after overwhelming evidence against it came to light Or maybe they removed articles because of political pressure? Post overwhelming evidence against the fact that the Al-Ahli hospital explosion was caused by an Israel airstrike, for example.

Sure, here you go: Not only every expert consulted by every journal agreed that the explosion was not even caused by an airstrike, but they also agreed it was caused by a projectile launched from Palestinian territory. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Ahli_Arab_Hospital_explosio...

You are posting, with a straight face, a link that repeats in all its entirety how nothing conclusive can be stated, how no expert has ever given a definitive answer, and you are saying the article affirms the opposite.

Are you an LLM?

Re: Open letter accuses BBC board member of having a conflict of interest on Gaza

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Offending or over-accusing sides of this conflict is a very asymmetric risk. Misrepresent Palestinians negatively and you may eventually get an angry, vague letter - with a quarter of signatories doing so anonymously. Misrepresent Israelis negatively and you get very powerful and well-organised protests. BBC is sadly doing the rational thing of staying clear of suggesting Israel may be doing some bad things. It is a…

There was a study about negative bias towards Israel at the BBC. It contradicts your explanation. Do you have a single example of a protest you try to summon here? I very much doubt it.

Do you mean a report by the Israeli-based lawyer Trevor Asserson, maybe?

https://campaignformediastandards.org.uk/asserson-report.pdf

If so, then you're spreading misinformation. This is not a study. It's a report sponsored by Israel. It has flawed methodology and they made heavy use of ChatGPT.

I rest my case.

Re: Open letter accuses BBC board member of having a conflict of interest on Gaza

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Sure, here you go: Not only every expert consulted by every journal agreed that the explosion was not even caused by an airstrike, but they also agreed it was caused by a projectile launched from Palestinian territory. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Ahli_Arab_Hospital_explosio...

You are posting, with a straight face, a link that repeats in all its entirety how nothing conclusive can be stated, how no expert has ever given a definitive answer, and you are saying the article affirms the opposite. Are you an LLM?

All the consulted experts on the source agree that this wasn't an airstrike.

Most of the consulted experts agree that it was fired from inside Palestinian territory.

No consulted experts agree this was an airstrike.

No consulted experts agree this was fired from outside Palestinian territory.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Ahli_Arab_Hospital_explosio...

Re: Open letter accuses BBC board member of having a conflict of interest on Gaza

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This goes on all over western media not only the bbc.

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It could be because your comment is too vague, personally I don't understand what you mean. Who are the ownership/leadership of media companies?

Re: Open letter accuses BBC board member of having a conflict of interest on Gaza

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Offending or over-accusing sides of this conflict is a very asymmetric risk. Misrepresent Palestinians negatively and you may eventually get an angry, vague letter - with a quarter of signatories doing so anonymously. Misrepresent Israelis negatively and you get very powerful and well-organised protests. BBC is sadly doing the rational thing of staying clear of suggesting Israel may be doing some bad things. It is a…

There was a study about negative bias towards Israel at the BBC. It contradicts your explanation. Do you have a single example of a protest you try to summon here? I very much doubt it.

> Do you have a single example of a protest you try to summon here? I very much doubt it

Here's one example. The UN Special Rapporteur for the Occupied Palestinian Territories, faced calls to have her visit to the LSE cancelled by various groups, including Campaign Against Antisemitism and Union of Jewish Students. She was also called unfit for office by the US ambassador to the UN.

On another occasion, an organization called UK Lawyers for Israel attacked an article in the Lancet, a medical journal, claiming a high projected death toll and decrease in health in Gaza as a result of the hostilities. A key point made by the organization was that the famine would help reduce obesity prevalent in the territory. UKLFI is an all-star group of legal heavyweights and not one you can easily cross.

And since you ask for sources, could you kindly share yours please?

> There was a study about negative bias towards Israel at the BBC. It contradicts your explanation.

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/news/2024/nov/11/pro-israel-camp...

[2] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/may/10/uk-lawyers-for...

Re: Open letter accuses BBC board member of having a conflict of interest on Gaza

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You are posting, with a straight face, a link that repeats in all its entirety how nothing conclusive can be stated, how no expert has ever given a definitive answer, and you are saying the article affirms the opposite. Are you an LLM?

All the consulted experts on the source agree that this wasn't an airstrike. Most of the consulted experts agree that it was fired from inside Palestinian territory. No consulted experts agree this was an airstrike. No consulted experts agree this was fired from outside Palestinian territory. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Ahli_Arab_Hospital_explosio...

You keep posting this link while saying it states what it does not.

Maybe you are, in fact, an LLM.

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post #112

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In a meta sense, yes, but in practice it’s mostly just a large collection of journalists and editors, real humans, working in a chaotic information space where there’s a large variety of angles and sources being put out at all times depending on the context. It’s equally easy to cherry pick this sort of thing to build a narrative of some ulterior agenda. Especially given the high pace that news demands in the social…

This is the kind of comment that at first glance seems measured and well-phrased. I’m sure it depicts a common situation in journalism too, after all they’re just humans like the rest of us. The problem here is the enormity of what is actually going on in Gaza: a slaughter and a terror campaign we haven’t seen the likes of since Pol Pot. It is not two sides in disagreement, each jostling for attention on roughly equa…

"...a slaughter and a terror campaign we haven’t seen the likes of since Pol Pot."

So you are saying, you dont know of:

The genocide in Tigray

The Darfur genocide

The history of the DRC

The Rwandan genocide

The Genocide of Isaaqs ...

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Yes, the coverage of this has been a weird one to watch. How does this remark differ from what the Israeli government regularly says about the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, just as much an official body in Iran as the IDF is in Israel? No one, to my knowledge, would consider calling for the demise of the IRGC to be hate speech against Iranians. No one has ever shut off a live transmission of a Netanyahu speech b…

Nobody chants "death to the IRGC" in music festivals in Israel (or anywhere in Israel). Not to mention we're talking a third party here, the UK. The Israeli government doesn't say "Death to the IRGC". Iran however regularly (like weekly) has massive crowds chanting "Death to the USA" and "death to Israel", stepping on and burning Israeli and American flags. Israel consistently says they consider the Iranians their fr…

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Re: Open letter accuses BBC board member of having a conflict of interest on Gaza

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All the consulted experts on the source agree that this wasn't an airstrike. Most of the consulted experts agree that it was fired from inside Palestinian territory. No consulted experts agree this was an airstrike. No consulted experts agree this was fired from outside Palestinian territory. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Ahli_Arab_Hospital_explosio...

You keep posting this link while saying it states what it does not. Maybe you are, in fact, an LLM.

Please point where in the article it states the contrary then.

Re: Open letter accuses BBC board member of having a conflict of interest on Gaza

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They also regularly say there are no innocent Palestinians [1] [2] [3] [too many others to count] but weirdly it's not considered evidence of genocidal intent when Zionists say it! [1] https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/israel-posts-video... [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eICdhG1qgI [3] https://mondoweiss.net/2025/07/poll-overwhelming-majority-of...

A minority of Israelis do say this. It's not something shouted in a music festival e.g. The official position and policy of the IDF is that Israel does not target civilians. I would say the majority of Israelis do not agree with this statement. [EDIT: for clarity that there are no innocents in Gaza] Not to justify but they (the minority) are partly referring to the complicity of random Palestinians in cheering and pa…

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