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There are so many red flags with this administration that I lost count. Policing speech, suppressing information, cutting research funding, cutting social programs, increasing spending and intensity for deportations, deporting people for political affiliation, an unnecessarily disruptive economic policy and many reports of general incompetence, lying and corruption. It's all so bleak. Where is the payoff?

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>The payoff is very obviously genocide and the reestablishment of chattel slavery

The Trump administration is deplorable, corrupt, grotesque and ridiculous in so many ways, not to mention dangerous, but seriously, get off it with these kinds of declarations. Such hyperbolic nonsense just shuts down genuine possible inroads into protesting against this government's uglier things and paints those who oppose it as hysterical lunatics.

Genocide has a real definition, and so too does chattel slavery. They're literal, specifically barbaric things whose definition only gets watered down by every random idiotic accusation of either happening because someone can't get a grip on their emotional outrages.

I see zero sign of Trump's government committing or even planning for genocide at the present time, and likewise for chattel slavery.

The deportations to third-party country are deportations, not mass slave sales.

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So the U.S is number one in several largely irrelevant and in any case partly ambiguous rankings of X and Y, and this is your counterpoint to the very hard facts of it still being the world's richest, largest, most dominant economic and political power, and continuing to stay that way for the foreseeable future due to how hard it is for any other major country to just magically supplant such positions?

The quality of reasoned political and economic debate on this site, so full of self-congratulatingly intelligent people, continues to be generally absurd, deplorable and full of cliched foolishness passing for opinion.

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Latvia and Estonia are members. Finland is a member. Lithuania is a member. The sad reality is that your logic is just a twisted pretzel to support the position you wish to take which is you support Russia's unprovoked invasion of Ukraine.

I do not support any invasion. This is why I do not support the US policy that caused this invasion. And countless others. The US military industrial complex is a huge beast that needs an enemy to exist. There is so much money in the game.

Which US policy do you think caused Russia to invade Ukraine?

Was it the one where the USA, along with the UK and Russia, all jointly signed an agreement to respect Ukraine's (and several other post-USSR nations') independence and sovereignty in their existing borders (as of 5 December 1994), including an obligation to seek immediate Security Council action to provide assistance to the signatory if they "should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used", so that Ukraine would give up the nuclear weapons it had accidentally inherited from the USSR?

Put it another way: given your stance on the US mil-ind complex, do you think this war would stop if the USA completely vanished from the international scene?

Because the EU is right next door and also doesn't want Russia thinking it can do stuff like this.

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> Remember, the U.S. is currently still #1. Currently, but even then by nominal GDP not PPP (China's way ahead of the USA already by PPP). Nominal being different from PPP is not just about cost of living though: the US dollar is artificially high by about 10% due to being a dominant reserve currency, and China has a policy of keeping their currency weak. Flip both of those and China would be about equal nominal GDP…

I don't entirely agree with all of your points, but at least here, an example of someone commenting with something well-argued, instead of the ridiculous vomit of cliches and emotional outrage that so many comments here put forth on any political/economic debate about the United States.

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That sounds so incredibly short sighted I think it could still be reasonably described as stupid.

We shouldn’t excuse these voters as merely stupid, like they’re just innocently ignorant or uninformed. They are deliberately malevolent, and vote specifically for cruel, terrible politicians because they, themselves are cruel and terrible people and desire such representation. And they are not just supporting cruelty. They are cheering and screaming for it. They want more.

It's no excuse at all, just pointing out that the malevolent/stupid dichotomy is a false one.

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>The payoff is very obviously genocide and the reestablishment of chattel slavery The Trump administration is deplorable, corrupt, grotesque and ridiculous in so many ways, not to mention dangerous, but seriously, get off it with these kinds of declarations. Such hyperbolic nonsense just shuts down genuine possible inroads into protesting against this government's uglier things and paints those who oppose it as hyste…

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.. which has had the effect of forcing formerly neutral Finland, which shares a border with Russia, to join NATO. The claim that Russia has a right to dictate the alliances of other countries simply because they border it is ludicrous and violates international law. (Simo Häyhä had something to say about last time Russia invaded Finland)

The same way the US has left all the countries around it alone ? Are you joking ? The list of US backed military coups in the Americas does not fit on an A4 page with a font size small enough to be unreadable.

Another easy response to go with pjc50's: why do you think Cuba was so eager to get some Soviet nuclear missiles?

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Huh, makes me wonder about claims that it’s a reaction to his daughter coming out as trans. That happened publicly in 2020, according to wikipedia, but it probably came up in private beforehand. The timing is close enough that it seems likely. It’s interesting to note since I wasn’t really familiar with the timeline of his villain arc.

No one becomes transphobic when a family member comes out as trans, it's usually the opposite

I agree that it's not the usual response, but given Musk's strong promotion of natalism and the fact that he has used IVF to select XY embryos for _all_ of his offspring...

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I don't think it really has a whole lot to do with socioeconomic hierarchy; I think that's just a happy accident. Old people vote. Old people vote in midterms and odd timed elections. Therefore, old people decide the candidates. Any politician would be smart to court them as a voting bloc. As for the benefits for the wealthy; that's just the same old bullshit in a new protectionist wrapper. Get my friends and family…

Nice theory, however you’re believing people vote for their best interests, and the above comment believes they’re deluded by misinformation. I think both are occurring. Young white men went GOP, why is that? Anti vaxx leftists went with Kennedy, why is that? Why do anti-immigration and pro-economics claim the top two republican policy slots, when they’re firmly opposed in their effects on the economy? This is the co…

> Why do anti-immigration and pro-economics claim the top two republican policy slots

Pro-economics? This admin can’t tell supply from demand. Anti-immigration, definitely.

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>The payoff is very obviously genocide and the reestablishment of chattel slavery The Trump administration is deplorable, corrupt, grotesque and ridiculous in so many ways, not to mention dangerous, but seriously, get off it with these kinds of declarations. Such hyperbolic nonsense just shuts down genuine possible inroads into protesting against this government's uglier things and paints those who oppose it as hyste…

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Feel free to point me to a single instance of Trump administration genocide and i'll happily reconsider my thoughts. I'm no fan of this government, but hyperbole does nobody any good.
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