This company really is turning into the new IBM or something. No innovation whatsoever and more and more money squeezing the users. I'm sad they make the only decent laptop out there, for everything else I'm glad to be out their crap wallet garden.
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#312Earlier quoted context omitted.
Uber violates this. At least as of a few years ago, there was no way to get notifications about driver arrival without also getting special offer and Uber Eats spam notifications periodically. Not only was there no opt-in consent, there was no way to turn them off without disabling the status updates. It's particularly bad when apps with legitimate time-sensitive functionality do this. I denied the app the ability to…
Account > Settings > Communication > Marketing Preferences. Uncheck them all. A bit hidden, but it does work.
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#313> That Apple can be trusted in ways that other “big tech” companies cannot. That's funny. Why would Apple be "different"?
Because Apple makes its money by selling you hardware and services, not by selling advertising. Companies ultimately serve whoever they make their money from; and none of the other big tech players have a comprehensive business model where the end user is the customer instead of the product. And because it has positioned itself as the single most prominent privacy-conscious champion in big tech through repeated actio…
and by selling ads, seriously, just open their app store.
> And because it has positioned itself
And they can continue that while simultaneously doing the opposite. There is no law against inconsistent behavior
> Do you think it'd make headlines if Google showed its users an ad? Or Microsoft? Or Meta?
Yes, of course, that's easy to find via a 5 sec google search
https://www.theverge.com/2024/4/12/24128640/microsoft-window...
https://www.theverge.com/2023/5/5/23712440/gmail-ads-more-an...
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#314Earlier quoted context omitted.
Google too. I wish the fact that every company enshittifies in the end would wake us all up to the fact that rampant unregulated capitalism just doesn't work before it's too late to make any changes at all.
Apple wouldn't exist without "rampant unregulated capitalism".
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#315I have never said and rarely thought this before, but I really hope the person who came up with / approved this idea got fired for it. It’s rare that you see something so unbelievably stupid and destructive of the shared pool of trust, which Apple spent 30 years building, only for one self-interested PM to blow a chunk of it up for no gain. If the person who came up with this reads this site, I hope they see this com…
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#316I have never said and rarely thought this before, but I really hope the person who came up with / approved this idea got fired for it. It’s rare that you see something so unbelievably stupid and destructive of the shared pool of trust, which Apple spent 30 years building, only for one self-interested PM to blow a chunk of it up for no gain. If the person who came up with this reads this site, I hope they see this com…
I think the person who came up with this shouldn't be fired, the person who _approved_ it should be reprimanded. There's some intersection point between who "owns" the wallet and who is coming up with ways to generate marketing revenue. Whoever lives at that intersection point is the real shot caller here aren't they? Imo you don't fire people for generating bad ideas, that just creates a culture of not thinking outs…
> Imo you don't fire people for generating bad ideas,
If an idea is that bad, at the very least they should be transfered into a role that doesn't involve coming up with good ideas, since obviously that is outside of their skill set. And what's the argument for not firing the chain of people who approved it? Their job was to stop bad ideas and they catastrophically failed.
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#317Apple without Ive and Jobs increasingly has a taste problem. Everything from their ads to things like this are just in really poor taste, and aren’t something that they would have done 15 years ago because they would have thought it was beneath their brand. I like Apple, so I’m really hoping they bring on someone to solve this. Otherwise they’re on track to be the same as every other tasteless tech company. More on t…
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#318Apple without Ive and Jobs increasingly has a taste problem. Everything from their ads to things like this are just in really poor taste, and aren’t something that they would have done 15 years ago because they would have thought it was beneath their brand. I like Apple, so I’m really hoping they bring on someone to solve this. Otherwise they’re on track to be the same as every other tasteless tech company. More on t…
Apple employee pre, during and post Steve. I was in a lot of meetings with VPs whose tasteless suggestions were shut down immediately with the usual Steve critiques attached. My recollection is that Eddy Cue got the most critiques, Phil Schiller the least and the rest were in between. Eddy would push back and still get shut down. When Steve left the last time, it was knives out between these guys with Scott Forstall…
Rings a bell.
>Tim Cook asserted his control over the company, putting his own personnel in place, and now his authority is absolute. Even those few others who remain from the Jobs era, such as “Apple Fellow” Phil Schiller, are overridden by Cook
https://lapcatsoftware.com/articles/2025/5/6.html by way of https://mjtsai.com/blog/2025/05/23/apple-turnaround/
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#319The problem isn't sending an Ad to Wallet. It is the fact that Apple openly attack Ads, condemns Ads, talk about privacy as fundamental human rights, and then have targeted Ads, in a place / software / services where no body expected it to appear. And not everybody has the Ad, so by HN / Reddit / Internet definition that Ad is targeted. The thing I used to like about Apple, even if you disagree with some of its decis…
Ads and privacy are not fundamentally opposed. The reason that they so often seem so is because of the massive surveillance enabling targeted ads. Ads served based on the context they appear in (eg, ads for financial services on the WSJ, or ads for diapers on a baby monitor app) do not require any surveillance or knowledge of the person they're going to be seen by in order to function. From what I can tell, this ad w…
I agree with this.
There was a (brief) period when website advertisements were simple, first party hosted image files. IIRC, the first text ads on metafilter (2001 ?) were just strings in the same HTML file.
You may like or dislike these things but they were not a privacy concern.
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Apple is absolutely fine with tracking and privacy invasion, as long as they're the ones doing it.
Which has nothing to do with the point, which is that that’s what they rail against, not ads. If they are hypocrites about it is an orthogonal matter.
Soon (2028?) "Yes, we know Apple advertises to us and backdoors their services for the government. But *at least* my personal data isn't being sold, without Apple's privacy promise I would be helpless."