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The Facebook-inspired pogroms in Myanmar were a prologue to the horrors that this will incite

Can you elaborate on that? How can xAI integration into telegram incite pogroms?

It has been injected with politically motivated bias: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/may/14/elon-musk...

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xAI is paying to be "the default" AI of s chat app of 1B monthly active users.

They pay for distribution and they likely believe they can later monetise this by sheer mass, roping people in Grok or offering professional paid services.

Telegram has in-app monetisation for 50 payment providers and more than hundred countries. They also have crypto but it is unrelated.

Also if someone still believes into the freedom of speech, Telegram was just banned in Vietnam this week when they refused bend the knee to the government. It aligns with Musk's ideology.

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>You can change that in Settings → Privacy and security → Invitations → Select My contacts Bizarre that that's not the default and that it's actually an option at all.

Not bizarre at all. How else would you invite people (study group, work, etc). Especially thinking 10 years back. This is a sensible default for most people. If it is no more, then settings can be changed.

Wouldn't you first add those people as a contact?

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I really don't get the sentiment of everything Russia. Russia has the GDP of a province of China. Russia does not have a thriving manufacturing sector. Russia has increasingly less influence or power over the world. Why would powerful people in the US succumb to to Russia's influence? That just does not make sense. If anything, maybe the Lenin-loving Stalin-admiring Marxists would love Russia, like half of the univer…

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Same as OpenAI paying Apple to integrate ChatGPT with Siri/iPhone. Apple has the users. As does Telegram. Of course, non-paying users are a loss-leader, but some portion of them will convert to premium users. They’re paying for distribution. And maybe mindshare.

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Durov is also a citizen of France and the UAE.

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Call me stupid, but I fundamentally do not grasp why xAI would pay Telegram for access to its users. $300M seems like a crazy amount of money to put into a chat app. I am genuinely curious about the business strategy behind the move bc that would be a market worth exploring - having something that the AI industry would pay for bc they are willing to spend a lot right now.

When OpenAI bought Windsurf a lot of the discussion was about which market and which customers they hope to get access to by that acquisition. This deal gives xAI privileged distribution among nearly a billion of users (and potentially future customers) for a magnitude less of money.

Who will „win“ the LLM-AI race is as much undecided as is the common way to interact with them and this seems like quite a sensible bet on distribution for a huge userbase with a very specific integration into a platform. Doesn’t seem at all crazy to me.

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>There's no genocide Thank you. This is all that needs to be said on this subject. The word genocide does not mean "a lot of red flags and generally terrible things", nor was it made to describe that. > Don't respond to something like this with a flippant statement about clutching your pearls. Don't clutch pearls then. As long as you keep abusing the word "genocide" to apply it to the plight of white people in South…

> Thank you. This is all that needs to be said on this subject. No? There are tons of completely insane things happening in SA, and much that needs to be said and done. If you're saying the minimum threshold for caring about what happens in other countries is actual genocide, then I disagree with you. People have been incorrectly calling this a genocide for a long time, which is why the PDF from Genocide Watch dates…

>There are tons of completely insane things happening in SA, and much that needs to be said and done. If you're saying the minimum threshold for caring about what happens in other countries is actual genocide, then I disagree with you.

I'm not saying that.

The subject at hand is whether there's a "white genocide" taking place, and that subject is summed up in a single word: no.

>People have been incorrectly calling this a genocide for a long time

Which is why it's important to not perputate this harmful falsehood any further.

>on the left you have people trying to ignore it, or minimize it.

By using the term genocide where it's not applicable, you're actively minimizing the actual genocides that have taken place (or are taking place) — and by extension, you're complicit in minimizing the very issue you're discussing.

See, we both agree that whatever is taking place in South Africa is not as bad as an actual genocide.

But by using the word "genocide" in conjunction with it, you're diluting the meaning of the word reserved for the absolute extreme — you're helping spread the notion that genocide doesn't have to be that bad; that "red flags and terrible things" fits under the something sort of kind of like genocide label.

What we have in the end is the parable of the boy who cried genocide [1].

The point of the parable isn't that there's no threat of a wolf attack, nor that is shouldn't be seriously considered.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Cried_Wolf

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