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Post by DonHopkins »

Vegenoid wrote: post #253
vel0city wrote: post #159

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People are being disappeared, snatched up without being charged with a crime and being held in for profit prisons indefinitely. US citizens are being deported without even due process . Congress is feckless about it. The courts ask for the executive to please stop, but the executive branch is continuing to do the illegal things they've been told to stop doing. Sure seems like these checks and balances are working out…

They are currently failing, yes. We can only hope that people look at the rest of the world and history, see how much worse it can get, and find their resolve.

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Post by sandworm101 »

bhouston wrote: post #3

The US is so weird right now. You have a President who is ordering the defunding of tons of groups (universities, media, aid, institutes) while not clearly having that authority and often doing so for what he views as ideological crimes. Also arresting and trying to deport people for things that are not clearly crimes (newspaper op-eds, etc) and without due process. Very strange times. Right now I have some faith the…

>> The US is so weird right now.

But it really isn't. It is odd compared to living memory, but across the centuries this sort of things has happened many times. We had similar discussions after 9/11 (deportations/torture/limitations on rights). A little further back there was the red panic of the cold war. All the nixon-watergate-vietnam stuff. Before that, all the nasty things done to various peoples during WWII. Today seems shocking but is actually rather normal historically. The US moves in and out of authoritarianism regularly. And every time, everyone thinks "this time is different" when it really isn't.

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Post by coliveira »

wing-_-nuts wrote: post #256
RajT88 wrote: post #193

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> My view (maybe shared by GP) is that while Trump deserves a lot of the blame, he's just a figure head over the rest of the republican party. Exactly this. Debated at length in the 2016 election cycle and onward since. The Republican establishment didn't (and doesn't) love Trump as a politician, but they love that he puts them in power, and they have been trying to figure out how to reproduce that kind of popularity…

>their focus is on removing the teeth from congress I mean, without a constitutional amendment how can that be done?

They have more or less done it already. Most districts are firmly in control of republicans. The congress is bound to the desires of the extreme right wing. Even the threat of impeachment is now a laughing matter from Trump after 2 such attempts going to nothing.

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Post by jimbokun »

DudeOpotomus wrote: post #210

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Convincing yourself that Trump is just dumb is a big part of why we're in this mess.

Trump knows very well how to achieve his goals. The problem with Trump is his lack of any discernible ethics, morality, or compassion. Not his lack of ability to gain power and accomplish his goals.

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Post by selfselfgo »

jimbokun wrote: post #236
stackbutterflow wrote: post #217

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The definition of conservative is conserving the monarchy during the french revolution. From the start it was and remain to this day an ideology for those currently in power to conserve their power.

Oh please, not a single person besides you thinks of "conserving the monarchy during the french revolution" when using the word "conservative" besides you.

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Post by [deleted] »

the_other wrote: post #291
neogodless wrote: post #197

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I just want to clarify that you're responding to someone who is saying that there are "people behind Trump" - not his "advisors" aka "yes men" but rather people with lots of money and influence, but behind the scenes. This might be Peter Thiel or Curtis Yarvin or The Heritage Group. I'm not sure, and it's hard to know that for sure. But it's a bit of a separate concept from the actual Cabinet Members and what may hav…

So you're saying there's a group behind the state? "A deep state" that's _really_ pulling the strings?

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Post by jimbokun »

stackbutterflow wrote: post #263
jimbokun wrote: post #236

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Oh please, not a single person besides you thinks of "conserving the monarchy during the french revolution" when using the word "conservative" besides you.

If if was not clear my point is that it evolved with the current form of government of the time but never departed from the original goal of for those in power to conserve their power.

People in power who do not want to conserve their power are incredibly rare, regardless of their professed ideological orientation.

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Post by [deleted] »

hypeatei wrote: post #25
bhouston wrote: post #3

The US is so weird right now. You have a President who is ordering the defunding of tons of groups (universities, media, aid, institutes) while not clearly having that authority and often doing so for what he views as ideological crimes. Also arresting and trying to deport people for things that are not clearly crimes (newspaper op-eds, etc) and without due process. Very strange times. Right now I have some faith the…

> Right now I have some faith the courts in the US will stand up to this I think "the guardrails will hold" thinking is flawed when you have someone who is willing to completely side step the system and push the limits. We're not actually sure what holding someone from this administration in contempt even looks like functionally since U.S. marshals are under the DOJ.

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Post by 2OEH8eoCRo0 »

MurkyLabs wrote: post #16
hadrien01 wrote: post #2

I suppose this is in response to this executive order: ENDING TAXPAYER SUBSIDIZATION OF BIASED MEDIA https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/05/endi... I would add that PBS has this to say about public media funding: > The U.S. is almost literally off the chart for how little we allocate towards our public media. At the federal level, it comes out to a little over $1.50 per person per year. Compare that…

Isn't it crazy that the supposed 'biased media' directly targets PBS who I know from watching children's shows as well as NOVA (it's been going for 51 seasons). These shows don't scream biased to me, they scream educational.

They don't know what bias is or they wouldn't watch Fox News and they don't know anything about the orgs they pile on. For example- I read New Yorker (a liberal "rag" I'm told) yet I've read lovely profiles of Amy Coney Barrett and John Thune.

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Post by laborcontract »

ziddoap wrote: post #302
laborcontract wrote: post #295

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Obama dropped a bomb on a us citizen without giving him due process. How should this case be handled? Like i said, american presidents causing untold misery on some people is a tale as old as time. The point is to create a system that is, on balance, just.

> Obama dropped a bomb on a us citizen without giving him due process > american presidents causing untold misery on some people is a tale as old as time This is continued whataboutism, which I'm simply not interested in participating in a conversation with. > The point is to create a system that is, on balance, just. Sure! Why not start now. I'll be eagerly watching, and hoping, that you guys figure it out.

> This is continued whataboutism

i think i’ve written enough to show that’s that last thing im trying to do.

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