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Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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if you stick with it the cycle will introduce new stuff. I have been using for months and still get new music (with occasional repeats)

I can’t say I have had the same experience, I don’t mind it though. I’ve had Spotify since it launched in the U.K. so it has plenty of my listening history!

> I don’t mind it though

their algorithm is working then

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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For music, Navidrome is superior. It is just crazy how easy it is to set this stuff up nowadays. I run both Navidrome and Jellyfin in docker containers. Then I use NordVPN Meshnet to securely connect to them outside of the home. The experience is absolutely flawless. In Navidrome you can host an entire FLAC library and then transcode to Opus on the fly. It's been over a year now and I have pretty much no issues whats…

I understand that Navidrome is more specialized for music, but what specifically makes it superior to Jellyfin, in your opinion?

Navidrome's killer feature is its simplicity, and not just the dead simplicity of setting it up: Jellyfin has everything and the kitchen sink, which is nice - especially for video, whereas Navidrome offers a well-honed, long matured, music search/browse/play standard API, namely Subsonic which opens a world of clients for a multitude of platforms and all tastes... On that front Jellyfin feels narrow in comparison.

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Spotify « radio » is the best reason to listen to real radios ! [honestly the DJs on most of the radios I listen to are insanely skilled !] Btw, is there somewhere a search engine to know when a given [set of] track was played where, in the internet radio world?

reminds me that i should donate to somafm again :-)

Good idea.

To those who aren't in the know already, it's this:

https://somafm.com/player/

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dgmltn.rad...

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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This article fails to mention the absolute butchering of features that takes place moving from a typical music streaming subscription to a self hosted Jellyfin library. A large part of my listening on YouTube Music is going to a particular song or band I like and clicking "Radio", which generates a playlist of similar sounding songs. You can then fine tune it with a filter i.e "Popular songs, deep cuts" or specific e…

That’s just how you interact with music though.

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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I went through a similar phase where I thought, how hard can it be to just manage my own music like it's 2008 again? Turns out, kind of annoyingly hard. The part about music players being stuck in time really hit. Winamp nostalgia aside, most local players feel like they haven't evolved in a decade

Roon is where it’s at if you want a decent music player. Not free but well worth the price, imo.

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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This article fails to mention the absolute butchering of features that takes place moving from a typical music streaming subscription to a self hosted Jellyfin library. A large part of my listening on YouTube Music is going to a particular song or band I like and clicking "Radio", which generates a playlist of similar sounding songs. You can then fine tune it with a filter i.e "Popular songs, deep cuts" or specific e…

I would have agreed with you 3 years ago. But now not so much. Spotify "Radio" feature just tends to want to give me music I've already listened to over new music. Whatever algorithm they are using has waaaay overfit to what I have already liked. There used to be curated playlists done by humans, now almost everything is "made for you by Spotify" playlists which, have the exact same issue as the radio stations, sudde…

Spotify radio regularly makes me angry, and makes me want to press a "dislike" button really hard. But of course, that button is missing ...

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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If there were a recommendation algorithm plugin for Jellyfin (even if it just calls out to the API of some existing external web service), that might pull me over. Until that's the case, the recommendations will keep me on Spotify

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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This article fails to mention the absolute butchering of features that takes place moving from a typical music streaming subscription to a self hosted Jellyfin library. A large part of my listening on YouTube Music is going to a particular song or band I like and clicking "Radio", which generates a playlist of similar sounding songs. You can then fine tune it with a filter i.e "Popular songs, deep cuts" or specific e…

It was like this in the past, now it's crappy. The algorithmic optimization started eating its own tail. And it's a problem on all platforms, from Spotify to YouTube.

Let's take YT. In very simple terms, instead of taking a bold move and suggesting a few outliers (similar to differentiating the population as it's done in evolutionary algorithms), it takes an easy shot and, if I'm identified as male, suggests some videos with females with big breasts and other generic junk many people just click on autopilot. It works well for them because most people click and click and spend their days uselessly hooked and feel bad, but in my particular case I lose what I had earlier, i.e. suggestions of interesting bands (they still do happen but the selection is of much lower quality).

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Self-hosting stuff is awesome if you have the skills. I have been on a mission for the last 2 years to replace as many subscriptions as possible with self-hosted solutions. The subscriptions really had gotten out of hand, it had gotten to about $200 (AUD) a month. Quick napkin math is that I have cancelled about ~$150 a month worth of subscriptions so far. The $500 office desktop I got for a home server is struggling…

Self hosting is absolutely awesome.

I upgraded my NAS to a recent Asustor a year ago and it changed my life. JellyFin for video works perfectly everywhere in my home, on any device, and it can also be accessed remotely, securely, with Tailscale, so if I'm in a hotel somewhere with my iPad it still works.

And my library is curated by me; it has classic movies and other movies I like, and zero fluff or random shows that I would never watch in a million years.

But self hosting doesn't stop here. Using Docker (via Portainer) I can publish any app in minutes, on either Apache or Nginx, securely with a Cloudflare tunnel (free) without ever exposing my home IP to the world.

This of course isn't as resilient as a proper server with a proper provider, but it's so much simpler and so much cheaper that for hobby projects it's largely good enough.

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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>The hardest to kick for me now is YouTube Premium.. And in AU it's like $33/month AUD, but I just can't stand ads. Any reason you're not just running network level AdGuard and Firefox with Ublock Origin to block all ads on your home network? Even just FF+UBO would block YouTube ads. The selfhosted subreddit is also a really good resource to use for interesting things to run.

DNS blockers aren't good enough to block all ads. Especially YouTube. Plus, many browsers will ignore DNS without configuration and same for phone apps. While this can be fine for me it's not for everyone else in my family nor guests. And that's before we talk about Apple... If anyone has a solution I'd love to learn.

I use Invidious whitout a a hassle, and firefox with ublock when I can not.

For android there is New Pipe and some forks.

I prefer to pay my yt loved channels than ser a fucking add

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