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Post by AstralStorm »

mystifyingpoi wrote: post #280
roncesvalles wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most relationships do not survive being ripped away from the spatial and temporal context in which they were cultivated. How many of your middle school, high school and even college buddies do you still have a relationship with? I think there's some stigma with confronting the fact that relationships are just ephemeral. We are social creatures in the sense that we can cooperate with each other on a task laid in front…

> Most relationships do not survive being ripped away from the spatial and temporal context I think this is very true, and with college buddies it's very different from workmates. Because in college, you are with them at classes, but then you hang out with them between classes, then you meet them in cafeteria, then you meet them at a party or in the student club, then you meet them at dormitory etc. All these context…

And then, it turns out these people actually move, try to raise a family and work, and then you rarely keep in touch.

This is the big thing, work opportunities tend to get people to move whole cities away, and long distance relationships like this tend to not survive.

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Post by rwmj »

asadalt wrote: post #182
BlobberSnobber wrote: post #164

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Always someone with a horrible opinion to give in this hellsite

i have had to avoid hiring excellent candidate(s) from EU, just because they would become unflushable if it comes to that.

Please post the name of your company so we can be sure to avoid it.

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

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Post by AstralStorm »

mystifyingpoi wrote: post #160
neilv wrote: post #144

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That sentence caught my eye too. First thought was whether they meant corporate political capitol transactional relationships. Second thought was maybe they meant that, inevitably (or so it seems, probably thinking depressed), they'd drift apart, since everyone's busy with family and work, and around the workplace was the only times they'd have to interact. In the latter, even if you have beyond-work social relations…

> the opportunities to interact outside of work and the lunchtime Good point. I wonder how much in-office work contributes to this. Because if you are trapped inside an office building for 8+ hours with essentially randoms, most people will start getting to know each other at some point, because there is no other choice, and after work and commute there is no time left for anything else. I feel sad for the author.

8 hours if you're lucky. Make that 10 if you're not because of breaks.

So the 40 hour work week gives rather little time to properly socialize, even less if you have family obligations esp. kids, especially when people move around as much as they do now.

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Post by oblio »

apwell23 wrote: post #281
Scandiravian wrote: post #229

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Having experienced layoffs in both US and EU companies, the difference is massive. In my experience there is very little respect for "the human" being laid off in US companies People literally would just disappear day to day. I've had several instances where I only found out a colleague had been fired because I tried to write them on Slack only to find that their account had been deactivated Personally I felt constan…

> In my experience there is very little respect for "the human" being laid off in US companies its much easier to find another job in US because of this though.

Is it, really? Aren't US tech interview notoriously difficult? Many rounds of interviews, background checks, etc.?

Most purely European companies don't do that. Actually, unfortunately, some of them do, because of American influence. But for sure they didn't use to.

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Post by rwmj »

varenc wrote: post #215
hnfong wrote: post #205

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It's not like there aren't disgruntled employees before layoffs. If a single employee could cause billions of dollars in losses, then the company already has a big problem regardless of layoffs. It's very interesting how so many people in upper management seem to think that they can trust employees not to sabotage and cause billions of dollars in losses by paying them like 100k a year.

The big difference is liability exposure. If a current employee causes damage, that's one thing. But if a recently laid-off employee who retained full system access causes billions in losses, the CEO and board would face severe consequences legally and reputationally, since it would be perceived as an obvious security lapse.

An employee who is serving their notice period is still an employee. Unless you mean truly ex-employees who still have access, in which case the company has a big problem if it cannot revoke credentials.

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Post by yodsanklai »

I also work in a big tech company. We had bunch of layoffs, some based on performance (which often was a lie), some random. In all instances, the company made a lot of money and kept hiring at a high pace.

At that stage, I know I'll be laid off eventually for one reason or another, I just don't know when. My partner tells me that I should quit on my own terms so I'm not depressed when it happens. But my salary is very competitive, and I'll get severance too. Still, I fear this moment and it's really hard to feel invested in the company. If it wasn't for my colleagues, I think I'd be slacking, waiting for my time.

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Post by JimDabell »

throwaway2037 wrote: post #156

First, this is pretty rough what happened to the person. My condolences. Second, completely tangential to the content of the blog post: Was anyone else surprised by the number of comments/"mentions"/likes/reposts? I haven't seen so much activity on a single blog post in years . Normally, blog posts that accept comments have 10 or less comments. This one has hundreds .

I keep seeing this pop up everywhere. I’m sure he’s a great guy, but the level of attention he’s getting is massively disproportionate. A lot of great people have been laid off recently!

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Post by yodsanklai »

Scandiravian wrote: post #229
apexalpha wrote: post #149

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Weird, as someone from Europe I've never experience anything else. Layoffs here are always done in conjunction with the unions. People are moved to different jobs, helped with training etc... Only in very critical jobs they'd walk you out immediately but then you still get the pay.

Having experienced layoffs in both US and EU companies, the difference is massive. In my experience there is very little respect for "the human" being laid off in US companies People literally would just disappear day to day. I've had several instances where I only found out a colleague had been fired because I tried to write them on Slack only to find that their account had been deactivated Personally I felt constan…

> I don't want to work for another US company again if I can help it

You can work for a US company in the UE. They have to follow the local rules like anybody else.

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Post by icemelt8 »

oblio wrote: post #314
apwell23 wrote: post #281

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> In my experience there is very little respect for "the human" being laid off in US companies its much easier to find another job in US because of this though.

Is it, really? Aren't US tech interview notoriously difficult? Many rounds of interviews, background checks, etc.? Most purely European companies don't do that. Actually, unfortunately, some of them do, because of American influence. But for sure they didn't use to.

What he meant is that the whole capitalist culture, less regulations, creates a more thriving economy which creates more jobs and hence more options to go to.
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