Textmate2 Goes Open Source • Hacker News Board

Re: Textmate2 Goes Open Source

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Post by clinth » Sun, Aug 12, 2012, 2:31 PM UTC

willurd wrote: post #175

I don't understand the negativity being shown towards TextMate in this thread. This thread is about an extremely popular editor going open source, something people have been asking for for a long time and something we should all be THRILLED about, regardless of whether we use it. Can we save the editor wars for another thread and maybe, just maybe, actually talk about the code?

Like you said, I don't think it has to do with the open-sourcing per se. The open sourcing is good news.

I'm not a TextMate user, but from what I've seen, this is confirmation that the TextMate author isn't going to release TM2 even though he advertised it as an incentive to buy TM1 several years ago, and has subsequently continued to promise.

Re: Textmate2 Goes Open Source

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Post by acdha » Mon, Aug 13, 2012, 5:11 PM UTC

drivebyacct2 wrote: post #307

acdha wrote: post #305

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Less appearance than quality of implementation: I tried ST2 for a couple months but the random hangs got old (e.g. the file / symbol search would often hang for noticeable periods of time).

You might try it again. I can positively and unexaggeratedly say that I've never had ST2 hang on me.

I'll give it a try - I spent a bit of time this spring trying to like ST2.

Re: Textmate2 Goes Open Source

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Post by bostonvaulter2 » Tue, Aug 14, 2012, 12:57 AM UTC

X-Istence wrote: post #191

bostonvaulter2 wrote: post #166

I'm confused as to how he could ever sell Textmate2 if he's linking against ragel, a GPL library. Well of course he could sell it but he'd have to release the source.

ragel isn't a library. ragel takes input and turns it into a state machine. The output from ragel isn't under any specific license other than your own, see the section on license on the homepage (copied below) http://www.complang.org/ragel/ > Note: parts of Ragel output are copied from Ragel source covered by the GNU > GPL. As a special exception to the GPL, you may use the parts of Ragel output > copied from Ragel s…

Thanks that makes sense. I've been meaning to get to know ragel better.

Re: Textmate2 Goes Open Source

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Post by johncoltrane » Tue, Aug 14, 2012, 10:08 PM UTC

jdonaldson wrote: post #196

batista wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "brilliantness"? Are you kidding? Have you worked with vimscript? Oh well, at the risk of feeding a troll... No, I haven't worked with vimscript. What does it have to do with anything? Vim/vi is a brilliant piece of editor software, with a solid concept (an editing language, the dual modes etc). And it is in continuous use for 30+ years now. Does anybody disagree with that? Now,vimscript being crap, or even it bein…

vimscript/viml, which is the basis of extending vim, regularly shows up as one of the worst languages to work with. http://geeksta.net/geeklog/exploring-expressions-emotions-gi... vim is great, but most of its great features are at the end of a very difficult (but necessary) learning curve. The learning curve for developing plugins is even steeper (and unnecessarily so). In contrast, most people can pick up and use t…

Vim had "extensions" before TextMate even existed.

I don't speak Ruby so I've never been able to alter much of anything in TextMate beside creating/customizing snippets in my 4 years of heavy usage (user ID in the lower 4 digits).

However, picking up vimscript for my small needs was relatively easy.