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Its their clever little dog whistle.
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The US have not become hostile. So far it has made two demands of Europe, and both of them are reasonable: 1. Europe should not rely entirely on the US for its defense (stated by Trump numerous times). 2. Europe should stop its mad self-destruction and descent into totalitarianism (stated by Vance on several occasions). Were they incorrect? Were they unreasonable? Sometimes you need a friend to tell you a harsh truth…
Your comment only makes sense if you agree with either premise behind (1) or (2). I bet the vast majority of Europeans across all swaths of the political and socioeconomic strata would tell you that (1) Europe DOES NOT rely entirely on the US for its defense and (2) that Europe is NOT on a mad self destructive descent into totalitarianism. In fact, as an American, id say (2) sounds vastly more applicable to the the U…
> I bet the vast majority of Europeans across all swaths of the political and socioeconomic strata would tell you that (1) Europe DOES NOT rely entirely on the US for its defense and (2) that Europe is NOT on a mad self destructive descent into totalitarianism.
And you'd loose that bet. Your opinions might be shared in your leftist bubble but definitely not across the whole population.
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You'll leave a link to a blatantly disreputable tabloid news blog?
Similar accusations have been constant recurring themes since the emergence of the Dutroux case, and from other cases that have emerged since then.
That link was the first random link that popped up, that, from memory, was illustrating the theme at hand.
No, I wasn't willing to do a deep dive into the putrid sewer of child abuse to satisfy the need for a "better" link.
It's upsetting enough to know that these things exist, and I have absolutely no need to make it my area of expertise and focus, for my own well-being.
If you want to, knock yourself off.
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On the other hand, people can believe experts without being experts. Perhaps the French parliamentarians just listen better.
Not trying to debate club you here, but it could also be that higher educational attainment creates parliamentarians that can listen.
Another thought, in a highly educated populace, the path length between any person and someone highly skilled would be much shorter. Everyone would know someone who knows someone who is an expert in a subject. So it would be much easier for someone to seek and get assistance.
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Moi aussi je suis francais. > French want less criminals and immigrants in the street. Whatever it takes. Maybe it's because I spent most of my time in big cities hanging out with relatively well-educated, often left-leaning, relatively young people, but I'm not getting that vibe at all. Yes, you do have pathological cases of badly integrated immigrant communities - for example the quartiers Nord de Marseille, and ye…
You could , and should, make the point about criminals and drug dealing affecting "normal citizens" without using imprecise and often wrong terms like immigrants. Yes. Many people feel unsafe, are affected by crime, or feel they are. Yes, people are afraid. Whether they are, statistically actually more unsafe, or not (most often aren't) matters little. If people have a problem with criminal behaviour or abuse, they h…
The thing is, the criminals do tend, and when I say "tend to" I mean "as far as I can tell, always are, although obviously just because I've not seen a counter example doesn't mean one doesn't exist" always be from similar ethnic groups.
You've heard of the Italian Mafia? A criminal organization where ethnicity was literally a criteria for admission? Or, while not criminal, Jewish diamond merchants? Having a specific ethnic group specialize in a certain type of commercial activity isn't new.
When that activity is trafficking drugs from Morocco, against the wishes of the local state, it's not surprising that the organization is largely composed of people who happen to share a common language, culture and ethnicity with Morroco.
And if you're wondering why Morocco, well that's where all the hashish is grown.
You've possibly been to "Chinatown" in a large city (say NYC). Now remplace east Asian immigration with North Africa immigration, replace the stereotypical restaurants and dry cleaners with drug dealing, and you have north Marseille.
This unfortunate fact actually drives a lot of the racism. If you ignore it because it sounds racist well... The problem will remain, refusing to accept that there currently is an ethnic group that dominates illegal drug trafficking in a certain place, due to ties with the source of the drug doesn't make it any less true.
Similarly, of you're smuggling cocaine into the US, speaking Spanish is a really good trait to have. Because the country that produces most of the cocaine speaks that language.
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> To me it just proves that they don't understand the very basic of how encryption works. Hanlon’s razor isn’t always true, sometimes it really is malice. Considering EU ministers want to exempt themselves from Chat Control, that suggests to me they do understand enough of the basics. https://european-pirateparty.eu/chatcontrol-eu-ministers-wan...
I love the combination of them naming this evil bill "Child Sexual Abuse Regulation Proposal" to make it sound like an obviously good idea, and them asking to be exempt from it. So are you implying you are abusing children?
yes, they are obviously to be considered child abusers. thats what I will publicly call ANYONE that supports their own exemption. they are pedos and child abusers, and should them campaigning for their exemption should count as admission of guilt
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Its their clever little dog whistle.
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You could , and should, make the point about criminals and drug dealing affecting "normal citizens" without using imprecise and often wrong terms like immigrants. Yes. Many people feel unsafe, are affected by crime, or feel they are. Yes, people are afraid. Whether they are, statistically actually more unsafe, or not (most often aren't) matters little. If people have a problem with criminal behaviour or abuse, they h…
The thing is, the criminals do tend, and when I say "tend to" I mean "as far as I can tell, always are, although obviously just because I've not seen a counter example doesn't mean one doesn't exist" always be from similar ethnic groups. You've heard of the Italian Mafia? A criminal organization where ethnicity was literally a criteria for admission? Or, while not criminal, Jewish diamond merchants? Having a specific…
How does naming the ethnicity of a group of criminals help in solving or preventing the crimes the commit?
If there's a clear, proven answer to that, one that works obviously better than other methods to solve or prevent it, then by all means: name this parameter.
In all other cases, it helps nothing. If anything, its counterproductive.
Let me give an example: a significant portion of Dutch heavy criminals, in the niche of harddrug trafficking were raised in poverty (relatively, its still the netherlands), in tough neighborhoods, by parents/families that often fall partly outside of the established social constructs.
If you look carefully, non of these parameters are "of certain ethnicity", but the enthnic group underlies many of these parameters. A populist politician, or racist, would say "they are all Marroccan". Which, except for the absolutists "all" is true, even. But it doesn't help one bit in preventing this crime, catching the criminals or preventing new kids to become the next generation.
What helps is finding the traits that do lead to them turning criminal; many of these traits may stem from their ethnic background. Mind you: these traits are by no means excuses, merely traits that allow a clearer and more effective treatment of the societal illness that these criminals are.
(Source: my ex treated a.o. criminals at a TBS. Where phyches "dissect" these people in order to treat them so that some might some day return to society)
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I think this is naive regarding propagandists. These TV channels don't "express views", they manipulate and fabricate opinion to serve the interests of their owners (in this case a multi-billionaire industrial family with a far right ideology). Rather than offer viewpoints, they suppress any constructive discussion and recenter the debate on bogus issues to rile people up and garner votes for populist parties that ar…
You’re free to have your own beliefs about speech. Please don’t say that you believe in free speech, though.
Is libel free speech ?