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Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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Post by moooo99 »

theflash666 wrote: post #238
Terretta wrote: post #133

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That said, calling the video conferencing capability "Visio" is à la banane.

"Visio" is French slang for a videoconference meeting. Open to suggestions for a project name that better reflects its purpose and vision.

I love the effort that is going on here. I'm just curious about some of the efforts taken here. The Docs seems like a good approach to just build it, but really wondering what the motivation behind building another video chat platform was instead of using and improving rather mature OSS solutions like Jitsi.

Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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Post by mkl »

virdev wrote: post #296

Hey everyone! I'm the PM working with the Docs team. Thanks a lot for the kind words, we're as excited as you to be working on such a cool project. We didn't expect to get posted so soon on HN. We still have a lot to do in terms documentation and reusability. But we'll be working a lot on that next week. We'll keep you posted here. Again thank you everyone!

Do you have plans to add structure to the document collection? E.g. group documents into projects, put documents into order and hierarchy (docs holding chapters, sections). I would really like a system that lets you have projects with a document per chapter or section and has a chapter/section outline on the left panel of the document editor.

Comments and custom styles would also be great.

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Post by mkl »

theflash666 wrote: post #238
Terretta wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That said, calling the video conferencing capability "Visio" is à la banane.

"Visio" is French slang for a videoconference meeting. Open to suggestions for a project name that better reflects its purpose and vision.

Visio is a Microsoft Office app: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/visio/flowchar...

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Post by sylvinus »

alephnerd wrote: post #306
virdev wrote: post #296

Hey everyone! I'm the PM working with the Docs team. Thanks a lot for the kind words, we're as excited as you to be working on such a cool project. We didn't expect to get posted so soon on HN. We still have a lot to do in terms documentation and reusability. But we'll be working a lot on that next week. We'll keep you posted here. Again thank you everyone!

Great work by the Suite Numerique team! Are you guys looking at adding localization support for languages beyond French as well (eg. English, German)? It would be a great alternative to multiple disjointed OSS offerings like Mattermost or Appflowy. Also, I found the DIPT to be fairly intruiging. How much inspiration did the org get from Gov.uk, and are there some resources, papers, or books you could point to about t…

Indeed, Docs is already available both in English and German :)

AFAIK we took a lot of inspiration from Gov.uk and 18F/USDS (RIP), at least for digital services. You can look at https://beta.gouv.fr/

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Post by VerminOctopus1 »

mike-the-mikado wrote: post #288
johndhi wrote: post #19

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I haven't thought about this a ton - but am I wrong that it sounds crazy and inefficient for the government to essentially compete with private industry? It feels like a colliding of worlds and a cannibalization that doesn't make sense to me. Like - if the government launched a messaging app competitive with WhatsApp and it drew users away from WhatsApp and it had better encryption ... Would that actually be better f…

I think this is quite right. The government should get out of the business of building roads and giving them away for free. If they were privately owned, they would be priced appropriately and we would not have all the problems with traffic congestion.

Is this a parody comment? Hard to tell on this website to be honest.

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Post by rvense »

theflash666 wrote: post #278
jahewson wrote: post #204

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Where do governments get their money from? Taxes on economic activity. The more economic activity the government performs itself, the less opportunity there is to raise tax revenue. Take this through to its logical conclusion and you have the government owning farms, making food, making its own steel, building its own cars, etc. with a corresponding loss of revenue-raising activity in the real economy.

From my understanding, most European governments purchase American or other foreign-owned software, which often does not contribute to tax revenues in the countries where it is used.

Software licenses are certainly a major expense for all levels of the Danish government. (Cloud infrastructure, too, increasingly.)

They've started complaining, especially since prices have been going up, but while there's rumbling underground, we've yet to see any real movement away from Microsoft.

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Post by rvense »

ryanSrich wrote: post #51
johndhi wrote: post #19

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I haven't thought about this a ton - but am I wrong that it sounds crazy and inefficient for the government to essentially compete with private industry? It feels like a colliding of worlds and a cannibalization that doesn't make sense to me. Like - if the government launched a messaging app competitive with WhatsApp and it drew users away from WhatsApp and it had better encryption ... Would that actually be better f…

It's insane yes. What an incredible waste of tax dollars.

When your health sector is being shaken down by foreign monopoly for software licenses whose prices increase for no reason, making your own word processor suddenly doesn't seem very different to training your own doctors.

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Post by rvense »

DeathArrow wrote: post #53
johndhi wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven't thought about this a ton - but am I wrong that it sounds crazy and inefficient for the government to essentially compete with private industry? It feels like a colliding of worlds and a cannibalization that doesn't make sense to me. Like - if the government launched a messaging app competitive with WhatsApp and it drew users away from WhatsApp and it had better encryption ... Would that actually be better f…

>It feels like a colliding of worlds and a cannibalization that doesn't make sense to me. Like - if the government launched a messaging app competitive with WhatsApp and it drew users away from WhatsApp and it had better encryption ... Would that actually be better for the economy of this country? Something seems off about it to me. The economy works best when anyone does what is supposed to: the Government sticks to…

Are they undercutting businesses or creating new ones? Running and supporting an instance of a suite of open source tools can be a business.

Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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Post by rvense »

kalipso wrote: post #318

Anyone knows if there is something like that with heavy focus on privacy? basically decentralized offline first, end2end encrypted collaborative note taking/knowledgedb is something iam looking for.

No, but the French and German governments just gave you an excellent code base to start from!
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