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Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Post by diggan »

doix wrote: post #181

I see many comments about not using this because China/ByteDance stealing data, etc. I get it for for enterprise, you don't want your code leaking to the outside world, even if in my experience, the code is mostly garbage and not worth that much. But if it's for some personal project that you're putting on Github, does it matter? If my code is going on Github anyway, it's going to get slurped up regardless. I don't p…

> But if it's for some personal project that you're putting on Github, does it matter?

I don't think the fear is that they'll steal code you'll end putting publicly on GitHub, but everything else. I guess there is some fear that it won't just analyze and process what you currently have open, but might scrape your computer for more data and so on.

I personally don't believe ByteDance would be stupid enough to even attempt exfiltrating files from developers machines, which typically are better protected than the average user computer, just trying to see the perspective of others with a more charitable reading :)

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Post by diggan »

jofzar wrote: post #14

Who would ever allow this in their organisation after the tiktok shutdown, just go for one of the other 17 ai IDE forks

Who cares what political stunts the US is currently going through? Except for the ~4% of the world who happens to live there, the rest of us tend to choose tools based on either what others around us use, or what we've found to work best for us.

If that happens to be an editor from China instead of US, I don't know what difference that would make? Both governments in those countries are crazy about spying on both their own citizens and everyone else, and have their corporations under surveillance.

As long as the editor doesn't send opened files/files from my drive to some remote backend, I couldn't care less about the nationality of the developers.

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Post by lazycog512 »

softirq wrote: post #30

Side note, but I hate that we're moving to a world where coding costs a subscription. I fell in love with coding because I could take my dad's old Thinkpad, install Linux for free - fire up Emacs and start hacking without an internet connection. We're truly building walls everywhere.

This is an age where you can write your own LLM extension.

There's no moat, all the clever prompting tricks Cursor et al. are just that - there is no secret sauce besides the model at the other end.

Complexity isn't an issue either, have the model write the interface to itself.

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Post by ltadeut »

softirq wrote: post #30

Side note, but I hate that we're moving to a world where coding costs a subscription. I fell in love with coding because I could take my dad's old Thinkpad, install Linux for free - fire up Emacs and start hacking without an internet connection. We're truly building walls everywhere.

That's not going away at all though.

But I am glad we now have more paid options available. Tooling is important and people that do good work should be able to charge for high quality tools.

I would be much happier in a world full of tools licensed like Sublime Text, where I can purchase a license and just run it without the need to constantly phone home though.

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Post by twasold »

softirq wrote: post #30

Side note, but I hate that we're moving to a world where coding costs a subscription. I fell in love with coding because I could take my dad's old Thinkpad, install Linux for free - fire up Emacs and start hacking without an internet connection. We're truly building walls everywhere.

Vs code is free. And copilot has a free tier.

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Post by echoangle »

latexr wrote: post #236
animuchan wrote: post #230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm thinking about this the same way, if a bit more selfishly: as a non-US citizen, I might want to move to the US in the future. Which is why I would like the US govt to have as little data as possible about me (who knows what the mainstream politics will look like, things that are very innocent today might be punishable by death in 10 years). Chinese govt, on the other hand, can have my data freely, since I don't t…

> I might want to move to the US in the future. > (…) (who knows what the mainstream politics will look like, things that are very innocent today might be punishable by death in 10 years). Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t think I’d ever consider moving to a country where I believed politics to be so unstable that an action could go from “very innocent” to “punishable by death” in the span of a decade.

I couldn’t name a single country on earth where I would be certain that this could not happen. 10 years is a long time, a lot can happen politically.

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Post by echoangle »

diggan wrote: post #312
jofzar wrote: post #14

Who would ever allow this in their organisation after the tiktok shutdown, just go for one of the other 17 ai IDE forks

Who cares what political stunts the US is currently going through? Except for the ~4% of the world who happens to live there, the rest of us tend to choose tools based on either what others around us use, or what we've found to work best for us. If that happens to be an editor from China instead of US, I don't know what difference that would make? Both governments in those countries are crazy about spying on both the…

> As long as the editor doesn't send opened files/files from my drive to some remote backend, I couldn't care less about the nationality of the developers.

Is this sarcasm? Isn’t that exactly what the editor has to do to do its job? How else would the AI stuff work? It’s not running on-device, right?

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Post by opwieurposiu »

wood_spirit wrote: post #106
opwieurposiu wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My kids are in elementary school that Chinese language in the morning and English in the afternoon. Only problem is now I have no idea what they are talking about half the time.

Which Chinese language do they learn?

Mandarin with the Simplified Characters (4 Tone Mainland Style)
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