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I think that as a pedestrian it would be hard for me to get used to. I like to look at the eyes of the driver to make sure they can see me.
Don't move to South Korea, where nearly everyone has tinted windshields and you literally can't.
Given how bad most human drivers are in my neighborhood - and I see vast amounts of them on their phones and not looking at the road - I'm thinking that this is not very surprising.
I have never been responsible for an accident and was never implied in a serious one with body injuries. Maybe I'm already avoiding >95% of the accidents by not driving drunk, not texting, paying attention, not speeding & basically following the rules?
People might go sovietic saying Waymo is better overall, so let's force it on everyone. Maybe we could achieve an even better result by being stricter on applying the rules and leveraging far less complicated technologies to prevent car from going over limit, preventing it to start when driver is drunk...
I just heard someone mention in a podcast how as a cyclist they need to make eye contact with drivers to be safe, and there is no one to make eye contact with. Waymo would say "don't worry, it sees you" and maybe the numbers even show they do some percentage more than the average human driver, but that still does not reproduce the self-help aspect of you looking at a driver until you see that that driver sees you. I…
Cyclist here.
Are you worried Waymos are going to blow through stop signs (or red lights) AND run you over?
Or are there other situations where you're making eye contact with drivers?
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Hence why I’m talking about Tokyo. Not Japan. Living in the countryside basically requires a car by definition. People also often have a car, but don’t use it that much. Maybe you’ll get more interesting numbers if you compare miles traveled per person? Found only for 1997, but increases the discrepancy to 1:2.5 : https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/ohim/onh00/bar4.htm
> I’m talking about Tokyo. Not Japan Tokyo would have a tough time existing in a world without cars, trucks or roads. Its economy depends on that access. There is no tradeoff between self-driving cars and a multi-trillion dollar infrastructure rebuild.
I will agree with that statement but mostly because you added trucks in when the original complaint was about car dependency.
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I ride my bike several times a day, and I have very mixed views about Waymo, etc. I care immensely about traffic safety (so much I moved to the Netherlands). If you took the world as it is now and left everything the same except that every car was a waymo and there were no human-driven cars left, I would be ecstatic. Humans are horrible drivers and some of them are downright murderous. If every car were a waymo I cou…
It seems contradictory to care immensely about traffic safety but lament the idea of wearing a vest to cross the street. It seems like something that logically we should probably already be doing. Self driving cars are just making it more obvious.
It is the obligation of the vehicle operator not to kill people, not the obligation of the person walking not to be killed.
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I was just in CA for a few weeks and drove in SF quite a bit. There are Waymo cars everywhere and from the perspective of a driver I was more than a little cautious driving behind or next to one of them. I would rate their driving as quite good, but their signaling of intent was terrible. More than once did I see them use turn signals, only to never actually turn. Turn the signals on, then off again, then on again, e…
I think that as a pedestrian it would be hard for me to get used to. I like to look at the eyes of the driver to make sure they can see me.
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Yes, it would be better if the good thing were more perfect.
Nice rhetorical trick. It's not a matter of "more perfect". The bad outweighs the good, plain and simple, and only those who are extremely naive or stand to gain from it refuse to acknowledge it.
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I was just in CA for a few weeks and drove in SF quite a bit. There are Waymo cars everywhere and from the perspective of a driver I was more than a little cautious driving behind or next to one of them. I would rate their driving as quite good, but their signaling of intent was terrible. More than once did I see them use turn signals, only to never actually turn. Turn the signals on, then off again, then on again, e…
I think that as a pedestrian it would be hard for me to get used to. I like to look at the eyes of the driver to make sure they can see me.
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It's impressive and all, but my reaction to self driving cars are completely different. It's a great technical feat, but it's not ever going to be efficient as public transportation. The form factor of the car works against it.
I suspect the advent of self driving cars will just help get the streets even more clogged with cars.